[Orgmode] Re: Alinea filling (hanlding of explicit line-breaks)

[Vincent Belaïche]

Hi,

Good to see that I am not the only one needing that sort of things.

Maybe an example is better to explain what I need, imagine that I have
the following two paragraphs:

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aaa a aaa a aaa aaaaa aaaa a aaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aaaa 
aaa aa aaaa a aaaaa aaaaa aa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaaa aa a 
aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aa aa aaa a aa aaaaa aaaa aaaa aaa aaaa aaaa a aaa aaa aaaaa 
aaaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaa aaaaa a aaaa a aa aaaaa aaa aa a aaaa 
aaa a a aaa aaaa aaaaa aaaaa a aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aa aaa aaaa aaaa aaa aa a aaaaa 
aaaaa aaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aa aaa aaaaa aaaaa\\
bbb b bbb b bbb bbbbb bbbb b bbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bbbb 
bbb bb bbbb b bbbbb bbbbb bb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbbb bb b 
bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bb bb bbb b bb bbbbb bbbb bbbb bbb bbbb bbbb b bbb bbb bbbbb 
bbbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbb bbbbb b bbbb b bb bbbbb bbb bb b bbbb 
bbb b b bbb bbbb bbbbb bbbbb b bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bb bbb bbbb bbbb bbb bb b bbbbb 
bbbbb bbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bb bbb bbbbb bbbbb

ccc c ccc c ccc ccccc cccc c cccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc ccc cccc 
ccc cc cccc c ccccc ccccc cc cccc ccccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc cccc ccccc cc c 
ccccc cc ccccc ccc cc cc ccc c cc ccccc cccc cccc ccc cccc cccc c ccc ccc ccccc 
cccc ccc ccccc cccc ccccc ccc ccc cccc ccccc c cccc c cc ccccc ccc cc c cccc 
ccc c c ccc cccc ccccc ccccc c ccccc cccc ccccc cc ccc cccc cccc ccc cc c ccccc 
ccccc ccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc cc ccc ccccc ccccc\\
ddd d ddd d ddd ddddd dddd d dddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd ddd dddd 
ddd dd dddd d ddddd ddddd dd dddd ddddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd dddd ddddd dd d 
ddddd dd ddddd ddd dd dd ddd d dd ddddd dddd dddd ddd dddd dddd d ddd ddd ddddd 
dddd ddd ddddd dddd ddddd ddd ddd dddd ddddd d dddd d dd ddddd ddd dd d dddd 
ddd d d ddd dddd ddddd ddddd d ddddd dddd ddddd dd ddd dddd dddd ddd dd d ddddd 
ddddd ddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd dd ddd ddddd ddddd
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after filling I wish that it would become

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aaa a aaa a aaa aaaaa aaaa a aaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa
aaaa aaa aa aaaa a aaaaa aaaaa aa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaa
aaaaa aa a aaaaa aa aaaaa aaa aa aa aaa a aa aaaaa aaaa aaaa aaa aaaa
aaaa a aaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaa aaaaa aaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaa aaaaa a aaaa
a aa aaaaa aaa aa a aaaa aaa a a aaa aaaa aaaaa aaaaa a aaaaa aaaa aaaaa
aa aaa aaaa aaaa aaa aa a aaaaa aaaaa aaa aaa aaaaa aa aaaaa aa aaa
aaaaa aaaaa\\
bbb b bbb b bbb bbbbb bbbb b bbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb
bbbb bbb bb bbbb b bbbbb bbbbb bb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbb
bbbbb bb b bbbbb bb bbbbb bbb bb bb bbb b bb bbbbb bbbb bbbb bbb bbbb
bbbb b bbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbb bbbbb bbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbb bbbbb b bbbb
b bb bbbbb bbb bb b bbbb bbb b b bbb bbbb bbbbb bbbbb b bbbbb bbbb bbbbb
bb bbb bbbb bbbb bbb bb b bbbbb bbbbb bbb bbb bbbbb bb bbbbb bb bbb
bbbbb bbbbb


ccc c ccc c ccc ccccc cccc c cccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc ccc
cccc ccc cc cccc c ccccc ccccc cc cccc ccccc cccc ccccc cccc ccc cccc
ccccc cc c ccccc cc ccccc ccc cc cc ccc c cc ccccc cccc cccc ccc cccc
cccc c ccc ccc ccccc cccc ccc ccccc cccc ccccc ccc ccc cccc ccccc c cccc
c cc ccccc ccc cc c cccc ccc c c ccc cccc ccccc ccccc c ccccc cccc ccccc
cc ccc cccc cccc ccc cc c ccccc ccccc ccc ccc ccccc cc ccccc cc ccc
ccccc ccccc\\
ddd d ddd d ddd ddddd dddd d dddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd ddd
dddd ddd dd dddd d ddddd ddddd dd dddd ddddd dddd ddddd dddd ddd dddd
ddddd dd d ddddd dd ddddd ddd dd dd ddd d dd ddddd dddd dddd ddd dddd
dddd d ddd ddd ddddd dddd ddd ddddd dddd ddddd ddd ddd dddd ddddd d dddd
d dd ddddd ddd dd d dddd ddd d d ddd dddd ddddd ddddd d ddddd dddd ddddd
dd ddd dddd dddd ddd dd d ddddd ddddd ddd ddd ddddd dd ddddd dd ddd
ddddd ddddd
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Where I assumed that alineas are separated by either an empty line or a
tailing `\\' while paragraphs are separated by just an empty line.

What you say (making distinct separation of paragraph for motion and of
fillable-region) is more than what I needed, because I assumed that
alineas and paragraphs are not completely separate things, as an alinea
is always a subset of a paragraph.

Concerning EUPP, after more thinking, I realized that alineas are not
the good approach: actually I don't need any special filling but rather
to disable filling in some occasions, and for that using the
fill-paragraph-function is a better approach.

So, for Org I will just install emacs-24 --- or at least the fill
package, is it backward compatible with an emacs-23 ?

Thanks for the feedback,
   Vincent.