Re: [O] Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble)

[chris . m . malone]

Hi Tom,

I've seen many of the examples you've added to the mailing list and worg.  I also enjoy using Org-mode for writing my own documents and webpages - currently I'm using it to write my Ph.D. dissertation.

I'm curious how you work on Org-mode papers for publication with collaborators?  In particular, do all of your collaborators know and use Org-mode themselves?  Our current method is just to use ordinary LaTeX files in a CVS repository for collaboration.  I think it would be difficult to get my collaborators to all use Org-mode - even though they all use emacs.  Org-mode has quite a bit of a learning curve that they probably don't have the time or patience to learn currently.

Chris

On Jun 30, 2011 2:35am, "Thomas S. Dye" <address@hidden> wrote:
> Aloha Karl,
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> I agree that AucTeX is awesome.  I use it every day at work with much
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> pleasure.
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> I've been using Org-mode with the goal of creating reproducible
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> research, where the LaTeX output is just one part of the package.  In my
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> case, this is something that requires Org-mode for its ability to pass
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> results between code blocks written in different languages.  I can't do
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> these things in AucTeX.
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> At first, like you, I was suspicious of adding a layer between me and
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> LaTeX.  I was impatient with figuring out how to make the little things
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> work right.  I'm still not able to control LaTeX as finely as I'd like
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> from within Org-mode, but I've managed to close the gap sufficiently
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> that my last four publications were authored completely with Org-mode.
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> The one I'm working on now is Org-mode, too.  I'm really liking it as an
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> authoring environment.
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> All the best,
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> Tom
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> Karl Voit  writes:
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> > * Thomas S. Dye address@hidden> wrote:
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> >> Aloha Rafael,
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> > Sorry, I thought you might as well be interested in my point of
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> > view.
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> > First: I am pretty new to Org-mode but I am using LaTeX a while now
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> > and I am even teaching LaTeX to motivated beginners.
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> >> Is there a reason not to have everything in one .org file?  I find
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> >> Org-mode's ability to fold on headlines and to edit subtrees in indirect
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> >> buffers very convenient, even for long documents.  For my work, that
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> >> functionality has replaced LaTeX \include files.
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> > I did not follow the thread here but I do think I get the idea that
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> > you want to replace LaTeX with Org-mode and generate a PDF via
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> > LaTeX/PDF-export functionality of Org-mode.
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> > On the one hand, I do agree that (simple) PDF documents are written
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> > very easily with Org-mode. But on the other hand you are going to
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> > add just another layer. This means that you probably end up wanting
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> > this LaTeX feature in Org-mode, that other handy LaTeX feature too
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> > and so forth.
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> > In my point of view, if you leave the basic stuff, you should stick
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> > to LaTeX. And I do have good news to you: You are very fortune
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> > because Emacs does have the IMHO most advanced editor support for
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> > LaTeX: AucTeX (with all of its extensions like preview-latex and
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> > RefTeX).
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> > I plan to use Org-mode as an outline tool for larger documents,
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> > where the basic structure evolves, keywords are moved from one part
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> > to the other. But before I start to write the detailed document
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> > content, I move to AucTeX, having the great possibilities for
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> > writing documents that end up being great PDFs.
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> > But this is just my point of view.
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> --
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> Thomas S. Dye
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> http://www.tsdye.com
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