Re: [O] missing todo's in agenda after emacs/org upgrade

[Carsten Dominik]

On Aug 19, 2011, at 11:02 AM, address@hidden wrote:

> Good morning gents,
> 
> I think you nailed it. Thanks!
> 
> 
> * Summary
> Having the todo list in a daily view is very convenient, but not provided 
> out-of-the-box. The enabling of it used to be relatively simply with a single 
> variable, but in more recent version it’s now reserved for org-savvy people. 
> Hooray for 
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-custom-agenda-commands.html


OK, I am attaching a patch proposal which will clean this up a bit.
It does:

- Clean up the variable name include-all, which is confusing
  for readers of the code
- Make `org-agenda-custom-commands' have a default value,
  which is a block that does put agenda and TODO list into
  one view.  Note that I have changed the sequence from Peter's
  proposal, I am putting the agenda first - this makes more sense,
  I think, and also reduces the likelihood that the cursor will be
  in the TODO list when you are trying to move through time.
- I have *not* changes the problem that trying to change time views
  in the TODO block will not work - this would have required
  more coding and would create undefined behavior in some block
  agendas.

HTH, please give me feed back.  Bastien, let me know if/when
I should push this change.

Cheers

- Carsten

agenda-include-all.patch
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> 
> 
> * What the problem was
> In Emacs 7.7, the variable org-agenda-include-all-todo no longer affects the 
> daily/weekly view as documented. 
> 
> ** org-agenda-include-all-todo no longer works
> The docstrings states:
> 
> ======================== docstring ========================
> Set  means weekly/daily agenda will always contain all TODO entries.
> The TODO entries will be listed at the top of the agenda, before
> the entries for specific days.
> This option is deprecated, it is better to define a block agenda instead.
> ================================================
> 
> Note that it says it’s deprecated, but it’s still present and describes the 
> behavior I was used to. But it doesn’t. Which is in-line what what Puneeth 
> mentioned (commit 770c2ddfba5c173d1b33e7b247b49a8188994f76).
> 
> 
> ** Terminology
> Notice that org-agenda-include-all-todo’s docstring mentions ‘block agenda’, 
> as does the ‘Agenda View’ chapter in the manual. But that term is nowhere to 
> be found in Org’s customization options. You must first find ‘Agenda Custom 
> Commands’, but there the docstring mentions “You can also define a set of 
> commands, to create a __composite agenda__ buffer.” So there is a problem of 
> terminology here.
> 
> 
> * Thoughts
> I do question this change a bit. I find it very convenient to have my to-do’s 
> (scheduled or not) in my day view. Now, I must make a block agenda to get 
> this. OK, I can handle that. However, out-of-the box behavior should suit 
> beginners, and asking them to make a block agenda as the first thing to do is 
> a bit heavy, no? (Have you seen the customization page for that? Frightening!)
> 
> So, to get what I used to have[1] I need to define a custom view like this:
> 
> (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
>           '(("h" "All to-do's and Agenda"
>              ((alltodo)
>              (agenda "")))))
> 
> [1] It’s not identical because of the block headers, but that might be 
> something that is customizable. Haven’t checked it yet. 
> 
> Also, in the older version you could type `d’ or `w' to switch to day or week 
> view from anywhere in the buffer; now you must make sure the cursor is on the 
> agenda black and not in the todo black. This is a bit annoying.
> 
> 
> 
> * Example
> Using GNU Emacs 23.3.1
> 
> The example uses the todo list from Suvayu’s mail:
> ======================== ~/planning/minimal.org ========================
> * TODO Plumber to fix leak
>  <2011-08-04 Thu>
> 
> * TODO RooStats tutorial
>  SCHEDULED: <2011-01-25 Tue 09:00>
> 
> * TODO Analysis deadline
>  DEADLINE: <2011-08-19 Fri 15:00>
> 
> * TODO Read Dune
>  The above 3 entries show up in the agenda, but this one doesn’t.
> ================================================
> 
> And a minimal emacs init  file:
> ======================== ~/.emacs-minimal ========================
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.\\(org\\  |org_archive\\|txt\\)$" . 
> org-mode))
> (setq org-agenda-files '("~/planning/minimal.org"))
> (require 'org-install)
> (require 'org-habit)
> 
> (global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
> ================================================
> 
> Start with
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs --debug-init -Q -l 
> ~/.emacs-minimal
> 
> 
> ** Behavior with Org 6.33x
> Org-mode 6.33x as version with Emacs 23)
> 
> *** ‘out of the box’ setup
> 
> Do `C-c a a’
> 
> ========================Weekly agenda shows=============================
> Week-agenda (W33):
> Monday     15 August 2011 W33
> Tuesday    16 August 2011
> Wednesday  17 August 2011
> Thursday   18 August 2011
> Friday     19 August 2011
>               8:00...... ----------------
>              10:00...... ----------------
>              12:00...... ----------------
>              14:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    15:00...... Deadline:   TODO Analysis deadline
>              16:00...... ----------------
>              18:00...... ----------------
>              20:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    Sched.207x:  TODO RooStats tutorial
> Saturday   20 August 2011
> Sunday     21 August 2011
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ========================Daily agenda shows=============================
> Day-agenda (W33):
> Friday     19 August 2011
>               8:00...... ----------------
>              10:00...... ----------------
>              12:00...... ----------------
>              14:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    15:00...... Deadline:   TODO Analysis deadline
>              16:00...... ----------------
>              18:00...... ----------------
>              20:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    Sched.207x:  TODO RooStats tutorial
> ================================================
> 
> *** To include the TODO items
> Add this to the init file (or evaluate):
> 
> (setq org-agenda-include-all-todo t)
> 
> Then, `C-a a a’
> 
> ========================Weekly agenda shows=============================
> All currently open TODO items:
>  minimal:    TODO Plumber to fix leak
>  minimal:    TODO RooStats tutorial
>  minimal:    TODO Analysis deadline
>  minimal:    TODO Read Dune
> Week-agenda (W33):
> Monday     15 August 2011 W33
> Tuesday    16 August 2011
> Wednesday  17 August 2011
> Thursday   18 August 2011
> Friday     19 August 2011
>               8:00...... ----------------
>              10:00...... ----------------
>              12:00...... ----------------
>              14:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    15:00...... Deadline:   TODO Analysis deadline
>              16:00...... ----------------
>              18:00...... ----------------
>              20:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    Sched.207x:  TODO RooStats tutorial
> Saturday   20 August 2011
> Sunday     21 August 2011
> 
> ================================================
> 
> ========================Weekly agenda shows=============================
> All currently open TODO items:
>  minimal:    TODO Plumber to fix leak
>  minimal:    TODO RooStats tutorial
>  minimal:    TODO Analysis deadline
>  minimal:    TODO Read Dune
> Day-agenda (W33):
> Friday     19 August 2011
>               8:00...... ----------------
>              10:00...... ----------------
>              12:00...... ----------------
>              14:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    15:00...... Deadline:   TODO Analysis deadline
>              16:00...... ----------------
>              18:00...... ----------------
>              20:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    Sched.207x:  TODO RooStats tutorial
> ================================================
> 
> 
> 
> ** Now with org 7.7, same emacs.
> emacs init file now loads a more recent version of org and sets 
> org-agenda-include-all-todo:
> ======================== ~/.emacs-minimal ========================
> ;; use more recent org
> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "~/.emacs.d/src/org/lisp"))
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.\\(org\\  |org_archive\\|txt\\)$" . 
> org-mode))
> (setq org-agenda-files '("~/planning/minimal.org"))
> (require 'org-install)
> (require 'org-habit)
> 
> ;;; expecting to get the TODO items in the daily agenda view!
> ;;;
> (setq org-agenda-include-all-todo t)
> 
> (global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
> ================================================
> 
> Now, the same `C-c a a’ yields
> 
> ======================== Week view ========================
> Week-agenda (W33):
> Monday     15 August 2011 W33
> Tuesday    16 August 2011
> Wednesday  17 August 2011
> Thursday   18 August 2011
> Friday     19 August 2011
>               8:00...... ----------------
>               9:26...... now - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>              10:00...... ----------------
>              12:00...... ----------------
>              14:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    15:00...... Deadline:   TODO Analysis deadline
>              16:00...... ----------------
>              18:00...... ----------------
>              20:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    Sched.207x:  TODO RooStats tutorial
> Saturday   20 August 2011
> Sunday     21 August 2011
> ================================================
> 
> ======================== Day view ========================
> Day-agenda (W33):
> Friday     19 August 2011
>               8:00...... ----------------
>              10:00...... ----------------
>              12:00...... ----------------
>              14:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    15:00...... Deadline:   TODO Analysis deadline
>              16:00...... ----------------
>              18:00...... ----------------
>              20:00...... ----------------
>  minimal:    Sched.207x:  TODO RooStats tutorial
> ================================================
> 
> No more TODO overview, even with org-agenda-include-all-todo set. Clearly, 
> it’s not only deprecated, but completely ignored. Hence, it should be removed.
> 
> 
> I hope I’ve managed to better describe the problems I had :-)
> 
> Cheers and thanks for the help!
> Peter.

- Carsten