Re: [O] are super-hidden technical blocks required?

[Torsten Wagner]

Hi,

I would say this discussion is just showing how difficult it becomes
to save all  extra information provided by more and more 3rd party
tools in a smart way in  plain-text.

I can understand both arguments
* hide stuff which is not useful or needed for the user vs.
* its my data and my file, I want to know what is stored in it.

The extra property line is really verbose if the only element inside
is a ID, a timestamp, or some other "technical" stuff.
Imagine a single list of task each only a view words on a single line.
The property drawer adds three lines to this just to add an ID. Even
collapsed it still doubles the amount of lines.

However, hiding even the collapsed property line has the danger that
people might forget about it and that devs need to make sure that by
any possible way of copy and pasting (and emacs knows many ways) those
hidden lines are not left behind, that text get not added in between
and the syntax remain valid for all kind of operation.

I am unsure how to deal with this. Any kind of font face, special
character, etc. on the next line below the title does not really give
any win. There will be still a second line per tree-node.

Adding something to the title line itself is tricky too. The title
line is rather full already with all the possible features.
I still prefer the proposed selective masking of properties to hide
them. In addition maybe a flag can be set to
+ hide a property drawer line,
+ set a different font face,
+ or leave it as it is
for the special case that the property drawer only contains hidden properties.

But I frighten that this, even it might be the most flexible solution,
might also be the most complex one to implement.

So how to satisfy both views, a clutter free view and the awareness of
what is saved in your file?


Torsten