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Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating


From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: Re: [O] [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 06:49:07 +0200

On 13.9.2013, at 10:01, Detlef Steuer <address@hidden> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Rasmus <address@hidden> writes:
>> 
>>> So the question is should it be a default package?
>>> 
>>> I think not.  E.g. tabu isn't loaded.  Amsmath isn't loaded if you
>>> generate a matrix.
>> 
>> I think the "tabu" case (and longtable...) is different from "rotating".
>> 
>> No feature in Org requires "tabu" or "longtable" unless user explicitly
>> writes "tabu" or "longtable" somewhere in the buffer (i.e.
>> in :environment attribute).
>> 
>> On the other hand, "rotating" or "wrapfig" may be needed without the
>> user knowing about it (e.g. when setting :float or :wrap attributes).
>> 
>> Therefore, I think "wrapfig" and "rotating" belong to the same boat.
>> Either we require them both in default packages, or we do not require
>> any and add a footnote about it in the manual. I have no preference.
>> 
> 
> I think it is more consistent to provide these packages automagically.
> 
> There seems no downside besides slightly longer latex startup times.
> Org already loads some default packages to perform its export magic.
> Why not try to be "feature" complete in the sense Nicloas describes:
> User doesn't try something special with latex, but uses
> commands/options provided by org, so a bare bone export can be expected
> work.
> 
> Personally I would appreciate it very much if org followed the
> principle of least surprise in these cases, as these surprises tend to
> show up, if time is running out ;-) 

OK, let me ask like this:

Does anyone know about conflicts arising from loading wrapfig and rotating?

- Carsten

> 
> Just my two user cents.
> 
> Detlef 
> 
> 
>> On the same line, we could remove "longtable" from
>> `org-latex-default-packages-alist', if only to spare a few kittens.
>> 
>> WDYT?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Nicolas Goaziou
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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