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Re: [O] org-log-done vs. State Logbook


From: Eric Abrahamsen
Subject: Re: [O] org-log-done vs. State Logbook
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 13:19:14 +0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Yuri Niyazov <address@hidden> writes:

> as soon as I typed that out I googled org mode scrum and found
> https://github.com/ianxm/emacs-scrum so I'll be giving that a look.
> Thanks for stimulating my brain :)

Thanks for giving me something to google!

> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Yuri Niyazov <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Thank you. I am already using it, and org-habit really is for habits,
>> rather than for individual tasks. The closest non-Org analogy I can
>> think of what I am trying to implement is (for the programmers out
>> there) the "SCRUM" development methodology. I know it has its
>> detractors and is quite controversial, but the one aspect of it that I
>> liked when I was exposed to it is that it required someone to keep
>> track of how long it took a task, on average, to go from "created" to
>> "completed" stage.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Eric Abrahamsen <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> Yuri Niyazov <address@hidden> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   So, I am trying to learn org-mode and figure out what's best for me.
>>>> One of the things that I would like to see is how long a TODO task
>>>> takes to travel through my life, on average from the moment when it is
>>>> captured, to scheduled, to done. Does something like this already
>>>> exists?
>>>>
>>>> One of the things I learned earlier today from this thread
>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-10/msg00112.html
>>>> was that there's nothing that allows you to log state at the moment of
>>>> capture, so I created a capture template with a LOGBOOK drawer
>>>> included with an initial state change, like this:
>>>>
>>>> "* TODO %?
>>>> SCHEDULED: %^t
>>>> :LOGBOOK:
>>>> - State \"CAPTURED\"   from \"\"           %u
>>>> :END:"
>>>>
>>>> Now, one of the things that I am finding hard to figure out is what to
>>>> do at the end: there's both the ability to log when the object is done
>>>> using org-log-done, and one can also track every state change, which
>>>> includes the final state change of being done, with LOGBOOK state
>>>> changes. I am leaning towards turning them both on going forward, but
>>>> I have a bunch of old tasks, and some of them only have the CLOSED:
>>>> [timestamp] entry, and some of them only have the -State "DONE" from
>>>> "TODO" line in Logbook, and I don't know whether to invest the time
>>>> into fixing up the old entries to mirror the existing ones. The answer
>>>> to this depends on whether a package for for displaying statistics to
>>>> me already exists, and if it depends on one of those (CLOSED entry vs.
>>>> Logbook state changes).
>>>>
>>>> I know about clocktable, but clocktable seems to only be for
>>>> Clocking-in and Clocking-out entries, not across the lifetime of a
>>>> task.
>>>
>>> You could maybe take a look at org-habit? I haven't really used it, so I
>>> can't tell you about its ins and outs, but it might be useful. On the
>>> other hand, it seems to be mostly for repeating habits. Dunno what else
>>> there is...
>>>
>>>




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