Re: [Feature] add a new org-attach dispatcher command to offline save web page

[Ihor Radchenko]

> I don't know how to implement similar functionality like monolith with
> url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer. PATCH welcome.

Sorry, I missed that the default 'url attach method exists already.

> Of course curl and wget is alternative options, just still same problem. Don't
> know how to download web page as a single file and save it as archive file. If
> use other ways, it's just another org-board. Then this patch will be 
> unnecessary.

Well. org-board is not built-in. And curl or wget are much more likely
to be installed. They can serve as a good fallback alternative to
monolith.

Best,
Ihor

stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:

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> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
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>>> If have better solution, I totally agree with that.
>>
>> In the current state, your patch will be pretty much useless for users
>> without technical background.
>>
>> url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer should be a better default. It
>> will be available for all users.
>>
>
> I don't know how to implement similar functionality like monolith with
> url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer. PATCH welcome.
>
>> Ideally, there should be several customisation options. Something like:
>>  - url-retrieve-synchronously
>>  - curl
>>  - wget
>>  - monolith
>
> Of course curl and wget is alternative options, just still same problem. Don't
> know how to download web page as a single file and save it as archive file. If
> use other ways, it's just another org-board. Then this patch will be 
> unnecessary.
>
>>
>> Also, it would be great if you provide some description about each
>> customisation in the docstring. For example, a link to github page of
>> monolith and a brief description how it is different from other url
>> retrieval methods should be useful for general user.
>
> This is good solution, I will improve option description.
>
>>
>> Best,
>> Ihor
>>
>>
>> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
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>>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
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>>>>> This looks helpful, but I think this should be an add-on rather than
>>>>> integrated into the org-attach. I'm glad to learn about monolith, but
>>>>> far fewer users are likely to have it installed than have wget or curl
>>>>> installed. You might also want to check out org-board, which has similar
>>>>> functionality:
>>>>
>>>> It does not mean that attaching URL directly is not worth including into
>>>> org. This sounds pretty common use case, especially considering the number
>>>> of packages providing similar feature. You mentioned org-board, but
>>>> there is also org-download and org-web-tools.
>>>
>>> That's right, this phenomenon represents an obviously situation, Org Mode 
>>> should
>>> have this functionality.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree that monolith is completely uncommon tool and I would not expect
>>>> the majority of users to have it installed, but the same functionality
>>>> utilising built-in url.el (as a default) should be acceptable.
>>>
>>> If have better solution, I totally agree with that.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Ihor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I attached the patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this feature will be helpful for use who archive web page data 
>>>>>> usually
>>>>>> like me. To be more portable, I also added an defcustom option for other
>>>>>> external command. And use an if condition to detect whether external 
>>>>>> command
>>>>>> available, else warning user.
>>>>>
>>>>> This looks helpful, but I think this should be an add-on rather than
>>>>> integrated into the org-attach. I'm glad to learn about monolith, but
>>>>> far fewer users are likely to have it installed than have wget or curl
>>>>> installed. You might also want to check out org-board, which has similar
>>>>> functionality:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/scallywag/org-board
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Ihor Radchenko,
PhD,
Center for Advancing Materials Performance from the Nanoscale (CAMP-nano)
State Key Laboratory for Mechanical Behavior of Materials, Xi'an Jiaotong 
University, Xi'an, China
Email: yantar92@gmail.com, ihor_radchenko@alumni.sutd.edu.sg