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Re: Changed list indentation behavior: how to revert?


From: Gustavo Barros
Subject: Re: Changed list indentation behavior: how to revert?
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:50:20 -0300
User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1

Hi Jean,

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 at 09:09, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:


That is useful.


I'm glad to hear that.


You (plural) could probably also get some juice from looking into, and
incorporating to muscle memory, `M-RET', `C-RET' and `C-j'.

I do, thank you for reminder. Us in plural are sometimes teachers or
mentors who educate other people who are supposed to edit Org files in
most simple manner, and those people will never be able to write to
this list to find out which option where, not even to know about
indentation things. When default is introduced then all people
following an educator has to turn off default. They will not even know
why. One default introduced can cause butterfly effect.


Also a fellow teacher here. As you, I'm trying to transmit this information to you and others, because I find it useful. Nobody needs to use `M-RET', `C-RET' and `C-j'.

General design of user interface should not conquer their habits
unless substantial amount of users have demanded it so.


And how exactly would maintainers know that? Do you claim to be speaking on their (substantial amount of users) behalf?


For me is now better to simple adjust: org-indent-region variable just
as you said.


Please, don't confuse. I said you should *not* use (the command) `org-indent-region' if you were systematically manually overriding indentation defaults. I recommended to set the user option `org-adapt-indentation' to nil, which seems to be the desired value for most of the manifestations on this thread.

Best regards,
Gustavo.



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