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Re: org-capture user-error: Abort
From: |
Christopher Dimech |
Subject: |
Re: org-capture user-error: Abort |
Date: |
Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:37:49 +0100 |
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 11:46 AM
> From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> To: "Ihor Radchenko" <yantar92@gmail.com>
> Cc: daniela-spit@gmx.it, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, "Org-Mode mailing list"
> <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: org-capture user-error: Abort
>
> * Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> [2020-12-13 11:21]:
> > Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> >
> > > * daniela-spit@gmx.it <daniela-spit@gmx.it> [2020-12-12 23:19]:
> > >> Emacs fires "user-error: Abort" after pressing "q" to abort org-capture.
> > >
> > > Those are error messages invented by programmers who never had any
> > > project supervisor who thinks of users.
> >
> > (user-error "Action aborted") only prints "Action aborted".
>
> Function is used wrongly. People do read source code.
>
> (user-error FORMAT &rest ARGS)
>
> Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 24.
>
> Signal a user error, making a message by passing ARGS to ‘format-message’.
> This is like ‘error’ except that a user error (or "pilot error") comes
> from an incorrect manipulation by the user, not from an actual problem.
> In contrast with other errors, user errors normally do not cause
> entry to the debugger, even when ‘debug-on-error’ is non-nil.
> This can be overridden by ‘debug-ignored-errors’.
>
> Did user incorrectly manipulated anything? I don't think so.
>
> There was definitely good intention to glue the things together and
> make things function. But it was not made from viewpoint that software
> will be used by people, maybe people read source code which is what we
> want. Under certain condition that will come up as actual error, see
> debug-ignored-errors.
>
> Why tell to user that it was user error when it was not? It was one of
> options.
I agree absolutely.
> Focus on technicality that causes the problem which does not fit
> reasonably into human meanings. We like meanings, that is why we want
> to fit meanings where they belong. Systems are not enough meaningful.
>
> I can love my bicycle as I want, but it may not be usable by other
> people due to all idiosyncratic enhancements I have made to it.
>
> Jean
>
>
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Christopher Dimech
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- bug#45212: org-capture user-error: Abort, (continued)
Re: org-capture user-error: Abort, Diego Zamboni, 2020/12/13
Re: org-capture user-error: Abort, Jean Louis, 2020/12/13
Re: org-capture user-error: Abort, Michael Albinus, 2020/12/13