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Re: wip-cite status question and feedback


From: John Kitchin
Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:57:41 -0400
User-agent: mu4e 1.4.15; emacs 27.1

I guess that the actions I use most often when "opening" a citation are,
opening the pdf, going to the webpage for it, and then opening the
bibtex entry (usually to fix capitalization or something). In org-ref
though, there are a whole bunch of other potential actions, like
searching for related citations, copying the key or formatted citation
to the clipboard, etc. I guess my point is there are a lot of things
that opening might mean to different people.

in org-ref, with any of those, the first step is finding where the key
sits in your bib-files, and then getting that entry. It is in a way a
primitive citation processor before the one that is used at export.


Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>
>> In my mind, "opening" leads to the bibliography reference, not to the
>> original document. IIUC, in this situation, the location does not matter
>> much, does it?
>>
>> In any case, Org has no clue about the "location" of the citation. It
>> can provide the suffix associated to the citation key, but it is up to
>> the citation processor to extract page information out of it. If this is
>> desirable, we need to provide the full citation object instead of the
>> key. I don't know if it is worth the trouble.
>
> From my experience using org-ref for citations, going to the
> bibliography reference is rarely useful. Most of time, I want to jump to
> the document I am citing (or even page in the document).
>
> I think that full citation object should be worth passing to the
> citation backend.
>
> Best,
> Ihor


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