Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

[András Simonyi]

Dear All,

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 13:49, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:

> I went ahead and implemented `org-cite-wrap-citation' function in
> "oc.el" (from wip-cite-new branch). Here's a quick demo.

> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (defun ngz-cite-demo-export-citation (citation &rest _)
>   (unless (org-cite-inside-footnote-p citation)
>     (org-cite-wrap-citation citation))
>   "(Doe, 1999)")
>
> (org-cite-register-processor 'demo
>   :export-citation #'ngz-cite-demo-export-citation)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> When I export the following document to ASCII
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> #+cite_export: demo
>
> Regular footnote[fn:1].
>
> Reference outside footnote: [cite:@key]
>
> Footnote with a reference[fn:2].
>
> [fn:1] Definition 1
>
> [fn:2] Reference [cite:@key].
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> I get
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Regular footnote[1].
>
> Reference outside footnote: [2]
>
> Footnote with a reference[3].

> Footnotes
> ─────────
>
> [1] Definition 1
>
> [2] (Doe, 1999)
>
> [3] Reference (Doe, 1999).
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Thank you, this is very promising!  I've checked the behaviour of
citeproc-org with and without a note style now and there is only one
additional minor difference which I forgot to mention, I don't know
how difficult would it be to implement it: When a citation is wrapped
into an anonymous footnote because a note style is used then the space
between the citation and the previous token (if there was one) is
removed. So for the fragment (using cite links for now)
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
text1 cite:Smullyan-1995-Logic text2[fn::text3 cite:Sierpinski-1965-Card text4]
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
exporting to text with he Chicago author-date CSL style produces the output
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
text1 (Smullyan, 1995) text2[1]

Footnotes
─────────

[1] text3 (Sierpiński, 1965) text4
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
while with the Chicago fullnote style
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
text1[1] text2[2]

Footnotes
─────────

[1] Raymond M. Smullyan, /First-Order Logic/, 2nd, corrected ed. (Dover,
1995).

[2] text3 Wacław Sierpiński, /Cardinal and Ordinal Numbers/, 2nd,
revised ed. (PWN–Polish Scientific Publishers, 1965). text4
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I think this is important for making it possible to switch between
note and non-note export styles without changing the Org document, and
would be very interested to hear  your and other list members' views
on this.

thanks & best regards,
András