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Re: Chiming in [Re: org-cite not mentioned in ORG-NEWS for 9.5]
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Bruce D'Arcus |
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Re: Chiming in [Re: org-cite not mentioned in ORG-NEWS for 9.5] |
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Mon, 27 Sep 2021 10:24:25 -0400 |
Great start!
A few quick comments:
1. I'm not sure we should call them "citation links", since they
aren't really links.
2. "four bibliograhic backends are available": a) note typo (which I
think I saw elsewhere; there are a number of spelling errors
throughout), b) "available" -> "included" (in org)
More generally, it has also occurred to me that some of what Timothy
wrote for this might be repurposed for here:
https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html
Finally, a question: what's the best way to do complex-ish
documentation like this collaboratively? Is there an alternative to
email + patches for the create, comment, revise cycle of refining
this?
And related: if the goal is to finish this week (?), do we have time
to do comprehensive documentation? I'm a little skeptical.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:04 AM Emmanuel Charpentier
<emm.charpentier@free.fr> wrote:
>
> As reported by Bastien, I started a documentation for the current state of
> the citation engine(s). I intended to complete it, but got "a little"
> sidetracked.
>
> Enclosed is a patch of where I was in August.
>
> Bastien made the following remarks, which I mostly intended to follow :
>
> ===========================================
>
> Je pense qu'à ce stade, le mieux est de soumettre ce document sur la
> liste de diffusion.
>
> En attendant, j'ai quelques remarques, en vrac :
>
> - Je pense que le titre "Working with…" n'est pas assez explicite. Par
> ailleurs, le chapitre précédent commence aussi par "Working with…".
> Par conséquent, je propose d'intervertir la description et le titre :
>
> * Citations and references
> :PROPERTIES:
> :DESCRIPTION: Working with other people's work
> :END:
>
> - Il faut penser à mettre deux espaces entre deux phrases.
>
> - =Org= -> Org
>
> - J'enlèverais la partie introductive expliquant pourquoi il est utile
> de citer le travail d'autrui. Ceci dit, il vaut mieux attendre l'avis
> d'autres personnes concernées par la fonctionnalité.
>
> [ Emmanuel Charpentier : I think that this justification may be helpful to a
> lot of non-scholar org users, who could benefit from org-cite. Advice
> sollicited... ]
>
> - Je pense qu'il faut éviter de parler ce "citation link", car cela peut
> engendrer de la confusion avec "link" qui est une structure proche,
> mais différent. Peut-être faut-il parler de "citation object".
>
> - Dans Texinfo, les phrases doivent être séparées par deux espaces.
>
> ===========================================
>
> What still lacks :
>
> an explanation of the four possible functions of an engine ;
> current functionalities of the currently available engines ;
> an org-guide sized summary.
>
>
> Anyone is welcome to propose modifications. Someone should take the task of
> collating the propositions and consolidate a final text ; I am reluctant to
> take this task, given my RL tasks...
>
> Comments, remarks, criticisms, lazzi, etc... all welcome.
>
> --
> Emmanuel Charpentier