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Re: [PATCH] Fontification for inline src blocks


From: Protesilaos Stavrou
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fontification for inline src blocks
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 23:02:50 +0300
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On 2021-10-03, 17:09 +0800, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote:

> Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Let me bump this thread again and mark it as a patch ;)
>>
>> Thanks for the bump. I'd like to get this working, but I don't know how best 
>> to
>> deal with the "prettification" of {{{results(=value=)}}}, which is the major 
>> blocker as I
>> see it.
>
> What about separating the src_{} fontification into separate patch? I
> think that part raised no objections.
>
> As for the results prettifications, I look at this and similar ideas as
> at Emacs themes.  It looks nice on your screenshot with your fonts and
> colours, but may not be good for other people.  Similar to org-bullets
> and co.
>
> I can see how some people (I am among those people) want to reduce the
> markup noise beyond hiding emphasis markers.  However, some people
> prefer not to hide text in buffer under "bells and whistles".  Maybe we
> can create some kind of "prettify-symbol themes" replacing different
> markup elements in bulk with nice symbols/svg (e.g. inline results,
> block headers/footers, uninteresting property drawers aka
> org-custom-properties, bullets, etc)?
> WDYT?
>
> Also, CCing Prot as it might be of interest for him.

Thank you!

I am monitoring the discussion in case there is something I would need
to do for my themes.  Otherwise I have no technical insight to offer
about the substance of this feature.

With regard to the use of faces, I generally find that re-purposing
faces in an altogether different context than their original can create
constraints for users/themes.  For example, and without having tried the
patch yet, we find this:[1]

    (font-lock-append-text-property beg lang-end 'face 'org-block)

Is the text-to-be-propertised the same as an Org block or does it differ
in purpose/presentation?  Because a user/theme may like their blocks to
e.g. have no background of their own, but also wish to maintain a
distinct background colour for inline constructs like org-verbatim,
org-code, and those discussed here.  The rationale would be that blocks
are clear enough due to their innate spacing and indentation, whereas
inline constructs are surrounded by text.

This is not a hard requirement, of course, while too many overly
specific faces can also prove problematic for testing/maintenance.  Just
something for you to bear in mind.

Finally, how does the use of 'org-block' in this context relate to
'org-src-block-faces'?  Could there be undesired conflicts in styling or
whatnot?

All the best,
Prot

[1] <https://list.orgmode.org/87pmzf4bd0.fsf@gmail.com/>

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