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Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode


From: Max Nikulin
Subject: Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 19:38:44 +0700
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On 29/11/2021 09:33, Michael Ashton wrote:

On 11/28/2021 11:46 AM, Karl Voit wrote:
At this year's EmascsConf, I had a 12 minute video where I explain why
we do need a different name for the syntax of Org-mode in contrast to
the Elisp implementation of GNU/Emacs Org-mode.
I would like you to read my rationale and motivate you to use the term
"Orgdown" for the syntax and "Orgdown1" for the first (very basic)

Perhaps orgtext or org-text?

I like such variant even though "orgdown" sounds better. Another one:

"text/org" ("slash" may be omitted in speech) as file format for Org Mode (as application).

If you can not survive without a pun and funny formatting, then

- "orgless" to emphasize that it lacks power of Org Mode.
- "org<1" to denote compatibility levels.

JSON format is not really human-friendly (in comparison e.g. to YAML), but the following representation of compatibility data for web-related technologies is great:
https://github.com/mdn/browser-compat-data

Recently I have noticed a number of issues with Org renderer at GitHub. I have not checked bugtracker of the ruby project (feel free to forward this list to the developers). I am unsure concerning appropriate compatibility level but it is annoying that verbatim text inside link description is not recognized.

- =[[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621763][Bug 1621763: [flatpak] native messaging support missing]]=
  square brackets inside link description breaks parsing of whole link
  (outer brackets, target, and description are shown).
- Verbatim text as whole description is not recognized,
  markers are shown
  =[[https://orgmode.org][=org-capture=]]=, the same for =~code~=.
  ~[[help:org-refile][=C-u C-c C-w= ~org-refile~]]~.
  =\u200B= zero-width space inside brackets does not help.
- "info:" links are not converted to HTML ones.
- Footnotes and ~[fn:text]~ links are not supported.
- ~src_elisp{(server-start)}~ appears literally.
- =#+caption:= before =#+begin_example= block is not supported
  and absent in HTML output.
- =#+attr_html: :alt= for images is not supported.
- ~="* %(org-get-x-clipboard 'CLIPBOARD)"=~ ("=" and everything inside
  without outer "~") is not recognized as verbatim.




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