Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

[John Kitchin]

chris <inkbottle007@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sunday, 20 March 2022 20:44:50 CET Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 9:42 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > For citar, why not simply using ivy-bibtex? It supports org-cite, AFAIK.
>> 
>> Not really; or rather minimally.
>
> I use `org-cite` with a very minimal configuration, and it works very well. I 
> don't use `ivy` at all. I don't use `helm` at all. Those are very large 
> framework and should not be forced to people. (I don't use `org-ref`.)

These days org-ref does not require helm or ivy, and it does not install
them. You can use the core library with any completion backend you want.
It uses vanilla completing-read.

org-ref does rely exclusively on bibtex-completion at this time. I have
not abstracted that out to allow pluggable alternatives like citar.

>
> I only use `citar` with minimal configuration. I use `vertico` for the 
> completion. `citar` is simple enough for me to be able to read and understand 
> a large part of it.
>
> IMO the more layers of code there are, the more difficult it is to have 
> things 
> work right. And similarly with the size of the code.
>
> Chris
>
>> 
>> Ivy-bibtex supports, for example, inserting of org-cite citations, but
>> not via org-cite-insert.
>
> And I have `org-cite-insert` working straight out of the box.
>
>> 
>> So there are currently no org-cite processors for ivy-bibtex etc.
>> 
>> Bruce


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