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Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0


From: Max Nikulin
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 22:53:37 +0700
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On 21/03/2022 18:51, John Kitchin wrote:
Vikas Rawal writes:

 From the perspective of a user, this was only meant to express a
sentiment that one finds oneself in a situation of having to choose
between two good things, and that we have not been able to find a way
to make both compatible with each other. It was in not meant as a
disrespect in any way.

I don't think you have to choose. You can use org-cite for
citations, and org-ref for cross-references. The citation syntax is
orthogonal, you just should not mix them. You can even wire org-ref to
use org-cite-insert like this:

(setq org-ref-insert-cite-function (lambda () (org-cite-insert nil)))

I am glad to read this. John, could you, please, update the README file for https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref to clarify that both packages may be used within the same document while org-ref is used solely for cross-references (I may create a github issue if your prefer)? From my point of view the following phrase may be considered as prohibitive in respect to combining the packages for any purpose:

You can use both org-cite and org-ref (although you should not do that in the same document as they are independent citation tools).
I feel some ambiguity in the starting message in this thread:

Vikas Rawal, Sun, 20 Mar 2022 17:38:30 +0530. CALtzAB2BHULDOXaamUZFQh2H453Ekb6K7bkOHbU-dHPn98avwg@mail.gmail.com">https://list.orgmode.org/CALtzAB2BHULDOXaamUZFQh2H453Ekb6K7bkOHbU-dHPn98avwg@mail.gmail.com

This obviously creates many problems including that two people using
different citation systems cannot share org files.
Accordingly to the org-ref README installed org-ref package does not break org-cite, so people are free to share documents. They just should have both packages configured and should adhere to a chosen package in each document (for *citations*).




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