Re: Orgmode plain list bullet : change automatically with list depth

[Edouard Debry]

What I am looking forward to is
1) not modifying the true "bullet" in the raw text, it will always be
"-" I just want the appearance to look "nicer"
2) having a bullet appearance level depth specific, e.g.
▪ this is first level of a list
▪ still first level
  ➤ this is the second level
  ➤ this is again the second level
    • a third level
  ➤ yet another second level

which means that de facto a specific bullet appearance would be
associated to a specifc list level depth, e.g. • is 3, ▪ is 1 (I assume
index begins at 1 ?)

Built like this, putting this list into the first level of another one
would shift all levels depth by +1 and consequently change the
appearance.

Currently, appearance is changed by :

(font-lock-add-keywords 'org-mode
                        '(("^ *\\([-]\\) "
                           (0 (prog1
                                  ()
                                (setq bullet "•")
                                (compose-region (match-beginning 1) (match-end 
1) bullet))))))

The key point is the regexp. I do not know if it is possible to capture
the depth level with a regexp. That is why I tried to use
org-list--depth in :

(font-lock-add-keywords 'org-mode
                         '(("^ *\\([-]\\) "
                            (0 (let* ((depth (org-list--depth 
(org-element-at-point)))
                                      (bullet (cond ((= depth 1) "•")
                                                    ((= depth 2) "▸")
                                                    (t "-"))))
                                 (prog1 () (compose-region (match-beginning 1) 
(match-end 1) bullet)))))))

but it seems that "org-element-at-point" messes things.





Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> sure.
>
> iiuc i think op wants 2 things:
>
>   1] graphical bullets.  i.e. not the - + etc. that are in the org
> plain text as saved to disk.
>   2] each level of a list to have the same bullet style
>
> examples of 2]:
>
> a conforming list:
>
> - this is level 1.  for this list, we always want level 1 to
>   use the - bullet style in the org plain text.
>   + this is level 2.  for this list, we always want level 2
>     to use the + bullet style in the org plain text.
>   + another level 2
> - another level 1
>   + another level 2
>   + the + is CONSISTENT with the + in the level 2 of the
>     previous list item
>
> a non-conforming list:
>
> - this is level 1.  for this list, we always want level 1 to
>   use the - bullet style in the org plain text.
>   + this is level 2.  for this list, we always want level 2
>     to use the + bullet style in the org plain text.
>   + another level 2
> - another level 1
>   * another level 2
>   * these * markers are INCONSISTENT with the + markers in
>     the level 2 previous list item.
>
> the idea is for org [as opposed to fontification] to enforce this
> level correspondence.  whenever we do a bullet style change at any
> level, org could change ALL BULLETS AT THE SAME LEVEL.  this keeps the
> list conforming.
>
> currently, org does not do this.  instead, it allows you to
> say that /demotion/ makes a + when you have a -.  but
> without enforcement, the list can quickly become
> non-conforming after the user edits it.
>
> this idea is independent (orthogonal) to fontification /
> displayed graphical glyph.  i think op's 2] idea can make
> sense.  and then fontification / displayed graphical glyph
> can be done perhaps with a fontification package.
>
> in any case, fontification can merely say that + looks
> like 😺 or so.  orthogonal to levels.
>
> On 6/17/22, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> i wonder if org could do the semantics in the text, while
>>> fontification could do the appearance only.
>>>
>>> org allows you to change the bullet style [real text bullets rather
>>> than fontification] upon demotion.
>>>
>>> thus, you can have it consistent that demoting + from top level will
>>> create - on level 2 for 1 item.  until you change it.
>>>
>>> but org does not enforce by level.  so you can't keep the results of
>>> your demotion strategy in the rest of the list.  an enforced scheme
>>> would have it so that a change to new bullet style at a level, or
>>> level 1 otherwise, would style that level.
>>
>> Could you please provide an example. I do not understand what you are
>> trying to suggest.
>>
>> Best,
>> Ihor
>>