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Re: Org and Hyperbole
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David Masterson |
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Re: Org and Hyperbole |
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Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:17:20 -0700 |
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Juan Manuel Macías <maciaschain@posteo.net> writes:
> Hi David,
>
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> I haven't touched Hyperbole in ...decades...? Even then, it was
>> complicated and full-featured (but I still keep it in my .emacs file).
>> My discussions with Bob Weiner were interesting at the time and I really
>> wanted to make use of it.
>>
>> As you've discovered, it integrates a lot of what Org has in, perhaps, a
>> tighter fashion (which makes it more complicated, but the pain might be
>> useful). The Smart Keys and Buttons are very similar to Org. The
>> outliner (KOutline) is more powerful than Org, but not integrated with
>> export capabilities to other formats (I think there is a way of
>> exporting an outline to Org). Something that Org does not have is
>> browsing capabilities for Object Oriented languages. This is an add-on
>> (for C++ ?) in Hyperbole (search for OO-Browser). Since I retired, I
>> don't do much programming, so Org's project management has been more
>> interesting to me.
>>
>> It's nice to see that it's actually still being developed by Bob.
>
> Thanks for all the interesting facts about hyperbole. I hadn't looked at
> the package source code info yet, and didn't know that this is all the
> work of one person. I also thought hyperbole was more recent...
>
> It certainly has some interesting stuff. In what way is KOutline more
> powerful than Org? Do you think there is any useful feature of KOutline
> that could be incorporated into Org?
KOutline has a much larger set of commands for working with outlines.
However, that's an example of complexity in that it's a lot to keep in
your head. The permanent (hidden) ids make it possible to build (say) a
personal Wiki of information where rearranging the outline doesn't mess
up the links.
> So far I've been able to find a couple of practical uses for this
> package in my workflow. The whole window control system is very
> powerful, although it would have been better if it had been a single
> separate package, IMHO.
I tended to look at EXWM, but didn't get too far. I may look at
Hycontrol again...
> Implicit links have a lot of potential. For example, I've managed to
> define some buttons for LaTeX, which recognize LaTeX commands and
> environments and lead to the local TeX live documentation or
> tex.stackexchange.org. It's like giving a LaTeX document a sort of hover
> help. This could also be done in Org, by defining some patterns as
> implicit buttons to lead to Org info pages.
Have you looked at Hydra? But Hyperbole's implicit links are better.
--
David Masterson
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