Org, Hyperbole, and eev

[Eduardo Ochs]

Hi all,

this message is slightly off-topic, and a shameless plug...

Eev can do many things that Org and Hyperbole and do, but it makes
very little sense to people who can play the role of "users" well, in
the sense of people who can "use" Emacs packages without looking at
the elisp source and hacking it, i.e.: reading the source of the
package, inspecting and understanding its data structures, and
creating sexps that call the package's functions directly...

Eev still has a couple of parts whose data structures are hard to
inspect. I don't regard these parts as "real" bugs, but I do regard
them as hugely embarassing - and I have just fixed one of them:
`find-here-links', that is explained in this section of the main
tutorial,

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-eev-quick-intro.html#4.1

and in this other tutorial:

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-here-links-intro.html

The way to run `find-here-links' in debug mode is explained here,

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eev-hlinks.el.html

in the second part of the ";;; Commentary:" at the top - look for
"Debug mode".

As I mentioned in the other thread

  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2022-06/msg00524.html
  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2022-06/threads.html#00524

and in these pages,

  http://angg.twu.net/2021-org-for-non-users.html
  http://angg.twu.net/find-elisp-intro.html
  http://angg.twu.net/eev-wconfig.html
  http://angg.twu.net/hyperbole.html

I find Org and Hyperbole difficult mainly because they are
hacker-unfriendly. It _may be_ that some of the people who said that
they find Org very hard in this thread

  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-06/threads.html#00186

would also benefit from a bit more of hacker-friendliness... and so it
would be great if more ideas could flow between Org, eev, and Hyperbole.

  Cheers and sorry the noise =P,
    Eduardo Ochs
    http://angg.twu.net/#eev