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Re: IM dev discussions?
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Bastien |
Subject: |
Re: IM dev discussions? |
Date: |
Sun, 25 Sep 2022 12:46:59 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Hi Timothy,
Timothy <orgmode@tec.tecosaur.net> writes:
> Doing something similar for Org development is an interesting idea. Something
> similar probably could be set up with the Org room, or a dedicated Org-dev
> room
> (I’m aware of Bastien’s thoughts on wanting development and help to not be
> separated, but while I like the idea of them living in the same space, I’m
> personally a big fan of categorisation. For instance, we could make an
> org-mode
> space with a few different rooms: org-dev, org-help, org-showcase, org-chat,
> etc.).
I'm all for places where people can freely discuss anything related to
Org. There are already many such places: #org-mode and #org-mode-fr
on IRC, r/org-mode on reddit.com, stackoverflow.com, etc.
I don't want development decisions to be taken in such places---that I
think we all agree upon.
Based on that, I don't want a separated IRC channel or a Matrix room
to be promoted (de facto, by its name) as the place for "contributing
to Org's development": #org-dev or a dedicated Matrix room would sound
like this to newcomers. #orgmode is the IM complement of the mailing
list: a place where Orgers discuss. On top of that, the ML is the
place where to suggest patches.
I think I get your point about categorisation in general, but in this
case, there is the risk of excluding a category of people (lurkers,
occasional contributors, etc.) or more precisely: to incidently and
inadvertently encourage them to self-exclude themselves.
> With regards to accessibility, I think Matrix is also reaching a rather good
> point.
Is it possible to lurk in a Matrix room without any login?
The same way you can send an email to the mailing list without being a
subscriber (vs opening a GitHub issue without having a GitHub account)
you can lurk in #org-mode without having a registered account on the
IRC server, which is good.
> The current state of affairs includes an Emacs client, a host of
> dedicated apps, in-browser web clients, and more. While the ability to peruse
> archives has not yet been developed, it is also possible to copy a link to a
> particular message, and so a conversation can be transferred from Matrix to
> the
> ML with a link to the initial conversation, e.g.
> <https://matrix.to/#/!rUhEinythPhVTdddsb:matrix.org/$1663983705132172ICPRd:matrix.org>
It's good to be able to connect to Matrix via Emacs: I will try this
myself soon.
All best,
--
Bastien
- Re: Matrix (was Re: IM dev discussions?), (continued)
- Re: Matrix (was Re: IM dev discussions?), Bastien, 2022/09/23
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Ihor Radchenko, 2022/09/22
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Bastien, 2022/09/23
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Ihor Radchenko, 2022/09/23
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Bastien, 2022/09/25
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Timothy, 2022/09/25
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Ihor Radchenko, 2022/09/26
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Tim Cross, 2022/09/23
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Timothy, 2022/09/23
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Ihor Radchenko, 2022/09/24
- Re: IM dev discussions?,
Bastien <=
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Timothy, 2022/09/25
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Fraga, Eric, 2022/09/25
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Bastien, 2022/09/26
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Mark Barton, 2022/09/23
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Ihor Radchenko, 2022/09/24
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Jean Louis, 2022/09/24
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Bastien, 2022/09/25
- Re: IM dev discussions?, Ihor Radchenko, 2022/09/25
- Re: IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done), Jean Louis, 2022/09/24
- Re: IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done), Ihor Radchenko, 2022/09/24