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Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-ag


From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 16:10:28 +0300
User-agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21)

* Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.online> [2023-01-19 19:23]:
> Only occurrences require absolute time, UTC.  Events do not.  They
> follow the user's space/time.

I understand you got your context specific terminology, from the
mentioned book, where you are making philosophically different
distinction between occurence and event as opposed to distinction by
its ordinary meaning in English.

What really matters
-------------------

What matters is aid to users' life.

When arguing, try to make a checklist and TEST it:

- [ ] can user easily understand the time displayed?

- [ ] can user relate the displayed time to his local time without
  hesitation?

- [ ] is that program that programmer creates beneficial to user or to
  programmer, or theoretician of absolutes, rights and wrongs?

How to test it?

Usability Testing 101:
https://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-testing-101/


Today there is in computing pretty much agreement that:
-------------------------------------------------------

- All computer time should be stored to UTC, UTC being basis for any
  other computations

- System libraries have (or should have) various configurations

- Computer users should be shown their local time


* Overview of noun occurrence
-----------------------------


The noun occurrence has 2 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
1. (29) happening, occurrence, occurrent, natural event -- (an event that 
happens)
2. (3) occurrence -- (an instance of something occurring; "a disease of 
frequent occurrence"; "the occurrence (or presence) of life on other planets")

* Overview of noun event

The noun event has 4 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
1. (62) event -- (something that happens at a given place and time)
2. (6) event, case -- (a special set of circumstances; "in that event, the 
first possibility is excluded"; "it may rain in which case the picnic will be 
canceled")
3. event -- (a phenomenon located at a single point in space-time; the 
fundamental observational entity in relativity theory)
4. consequence, effect, outcome, result, event, issue, upshot -- (a phenomenon 
that follows and is caused by some previous phenomenon; "the magnetic effect 
was greater when the rod was lengthwise"; "his decision had depressing 
consequences for business"; "he acted very wise after the event")

-- 
Jean

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