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Re: Excluding intra-molecular electrostatic interactions


From: Margaret Rosenberg
Subject: Re: Excluding intra-molecular electrostatic interactions
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:23:36 +0200
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Hi Rudolf,

I tried the check and in my case (virtual sites only touching) the total forces and torques are negligible. Thanks for the advice!


Am 17.09.2020 18:09, schrieb Rudolf Weeber:
Hi Margaret,
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 05:06:32PM +0200, Margaret Rosenberg wrote:
I'm attempting to use pypresso to simulate a system of anisotropic charged colloids. Each of these colloids is represented using the raspberry model.
Following the documentation, I've excluded steric interactions between
virtual sites on the same molecule. However, I also need to add a charge to
each virtual particle: how can I exclude Coulomb interactions between
virtual sites in the same colloid?
There is this bonded interaction:
http://espressomd.org/html/doc/espressomd.html#espressomd.interactions.BondedCoulombSRBond
and also a variant for pure 1/r.

Depending on what you intend to do, excluding the electrostatic ia
between the particles making up a rigid body may not be necessary.
In theory, pair-wise interactions within the virtual sites of a rigid
body add up to zero due to Newton's thhird law.
For steep potentials like Lennard-Jones, some of the contributions to
the sum might be huge though, if your virtual sites are "overlapping"
based on the Lennard-Jones sigma.
So due to numerical errors, the total force might end up being non-zero.
For 1/r, it might well be less of an issue.
To check, integrate a single free raspberry for a few time steps and
check that the force and torque on the central, non-virtual particle
remain zero.

I mostly just use a specific particle type for the beads in a
raspberry and only define interactions with respect to other particle
types. I.e., there is no LJ interaction within the raspberry in the
first place.

Regards, Rudolf

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Margaret Rosenberg, MSc

Dipolar Soft Matter Group
Faculty of Physics, University of Vienna
Sensengasse 8/18, 1090, Vienna, Austria

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