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Re: fabric3


From: Jeff Forcier
Subject: Re: fabric3
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 13:16:50 -0400

All right! IT IS DONE. 1.15.0 is tagged, pushed, merged, built,
signed, published to PyPI, added to changelog, e t c. Thanks again to
Mathias/za3k/everyone else for this.

I'll put out a bugfix release or two for anything preventing
installation/core functionality; just reply here (just-to-me is fine)
as I don't tend to keep laser eyes on the issue tracker. The focus is
Python 2.7/3.6-3.8 (as those can run the test suite) but basic
install/base-case real world testing has been run on 3.10 as well.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 9:44 PM Jeff Forcier <jeff@bitprophet.org> wrote:
>
> Pushed a few more updates to that branch this evening (eg metadata
> updates so it doesn't think of itself as 'fabric3' or submit Mathias
> to emails from folks slavishly adhering to setup.py fields!).
>
> Consider this a standing note to check the actual recent commits for
> what is changing, and not to treat my list in the previous email as
> canonical :)
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 9:06 PM Jeff Forcier <jeff@bitprophet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello friends! It's been a couple years since the below chat, but I'm
> > finally at the point where pulling 'fabric3' back into Fabric's 1.x
> > branch is blocking my other plans (namely dropping Python 2 support
> > everywhere else). As I didn't find any actual PR filed about this, I
> > just soldiered ahead, since it shouldn't be all that much work (famous
> > last words).
> >
> > What I've done so far:
> >
> > - Made sure I could still test Fabric-primary's "v1" branch under
> > Python 2 in a Docker image. Still works! Mostly. Had to post a tiny
> > test-only fix.
> > - Made sure the tests passed under Mathias' master branch on
> > Py2+Py3(.6). Again, mostly! Another test-only fix got us to 100%.
> > - Merged the head of v1 (which as noted earlier, was just some bits n
> > bobs from 1.14.1 release) into my copy of Mathias' branch. Still good.
> > - Gave the result a little CircleCI config since it only takes a
> > couple minutes and would be a nice "proof of work" besides "works on
> > my machine".
> >     - Note that as with my other projects and Fab 2.x, CircleCI only
> > does Python 3 - not Python 2. But I don't think anybody was TOO
> > worried about the stability of this line on Python 2...
> >     - 
> > https://app.circleci.com/pipelines/github/fabric/fabric/118/workflows/ea65458b-ccf7-40b0-9b8b-d7107001fbc4
> > - Early steps here helped me discover a Python 3.9 compat issue (think
> > because they axed the old _dummy_thread allowing 'import thread' to
> > work) in a test dependency (fudge) - it doesn't look easily worked
> > around
> >     - but as it's a test-only dep, I am currently happy just saying
> > "test on 3.6-3.8", esp since I don't exactly expect us to post many
> > commits to this line going forwards!
> >
> > For ease of viewing (the compare-only page seems a bit "off", eg
> > doesn't show my recent commits) I made this PR:
> >
> >     https://github.com/fabric/fabric/pull/2205
> >
> > but I'm expecting to just merge & release it as v1.15 (likely this
> > coming Friday-ish) unless somebody points out a Serious Problemâ„¢ I'm
> > not seeing. Let me know what y'all think!
> >
> > Kindly yours, 7 years after the fork,
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:16 PM Mathias Ertl <mati@er.tl> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > On 6/15/20 9:40 PM, Jeff Forcier wrote:
> > > > I am definitely willing to merge PRs that add Python 3 compatibility,
> > >
> > > That's *really* great news. Thanks!
> > >
> > > > though my assumption was that we'd do it as a single PR that
> > > > approximates the diff between the official repo's v1 branch, and
> > > > fabric3, and treat it in the changelog/messaging as "were you using
> > > > fabric3 from PyPI? Fabric 1.15 is now effectively the same thing! come
> > > > on back!!"
> > > >
> > > > Were you intending to follow some other multi-step process or are we in
> > > > alignment here? Open to whatever, as long as there's a good rationale.
> > >
> > > Well, I'm a bit split:
> > >
> > > On the one hand, I just cloned my fork again and ran the test suite with
> > > Python 3.8.3. Only one test fails
> > > (test_network.TestNetwork.test_connect_does_not_prompt_password_when_ssh_raises_channel_exception),
> > > and that error seems fixable. So we could do just what you're saying.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, Fabric3 did see some usage, but certainly not as much
> > > as it should. Some parts I used at work, but definitely not all of them.
> > > My experience from porting software like this to Python3 is to take it
> > > slow: First fix syntax errors, then fix obvious problems that don't
> > > break compatibility (e.g. imports via six) and so on.
> > >
> > > The advantage of the latter approach is that we have some way cleaner
> > > commits and PRs where we can make sure that we don't break anything.
> > >
> > > So in any case let me know what you want :-)
> > >
> > > Mat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > FYI: I've been intending to migrate our CI from Travis to Circle, which
> > > > may play into the timing of this; however I'll likely only allow that to
> > > > block the merge if the Travis env is broken and needs nontrivial fixes
> > > > (as it seems a waste to spend more time on Travis if I am planning to
> > > > leave). I am /hoping/ to look at that this week.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 12:32 PM Mathias Ertl <mati@er.tl
> > > > <mailto:mati@er.tl>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     Hi Jeff + mailing list,
> > > >
> > > >     This thread unfortunately did not have a follow up that I can see, 
> > > > so
> > > >     whats up with making Fabric 1.x Py3 compatible?
> > > >
> > > >     If I get a statement from you that you're willing to merge PRs that
> > > >     start with py3 compatibility, I'm willing to start working on this, 
> > > > or
> > > >     of course maybe za3k wants to work with this, I'm willing to help 
> > > > him
> > > >     get started (I have ported many older Py2 projects to py3 at my old
> > > >     job).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     Mat
> > > >
> > > >     On 5/27/20 5:50 PM, Jeff Forcier wrote:
> > > >      > Hi all, and thanks for putting this together, Zachary.
> > > >      >
> > > >      > Just to chip in with my own context:
> > > >      >
> > > >      > - I'd been pondering making this connection myself lately (due to
> > > >     the
> > > >      > delays in getting Fabric 2 to parity and now Python 2's official
> > > >     EOL). Hi!
> > > >      > - Fabric 1.15 was IIRC a single small feature-add, so if there
> > > >     are no
> > > >      > big changes on the fork besides just the Python 3 compatibility,
> > > >      > unifying them should still be relatively easy, mechanically 
> > > > speaking.
> > > >      > - As stated earlier on the list, my main concern with the Py3
> > > >     compat is
> > > >      > that Fabric 1's test suite doesn't have as high a % coverage as
> > > >     I'd like
> > > >      > (one of many impetuses for v2) but at this point I'm guessing
> > > >     fabric3's
> > > >      > usage has been widespread enough, for long enough, that any
> > > >     serious bugs
> > > >      > have already been found.
> > > >      >    - Curious what, if any, you ran into though - Paramiko went
> > > >     through
> > > >      > quite a lot of instability in its own Py3 journey...
> > > >      > - Re: the fabric3 name on pip - no rush on figuring that out, for
> > > >      > multiple reasons.
> > > >      >    - At the VERY least we would need to wait til stats show most
> > > >     users
> > > >      > of fabric3 had migrated to either post-merge fabric1, or fabric2.
> > > >     Not in
> > > >      > a rush to pull the rug out from under anyone.
> > > >      >    - I'm hoping that Fabric 3.x, 4.x etc will be non full
> > > >     rewrites and
> > > >      > thus there will be no need for in place side by side upgrades -
> > > >     which
> > > >      > was the only real reason to even need a 'fabric2' on pypi (and,
> > > >     thus,
> > > >      > ever a mainstream 'fabric3')
> > > >      >    - By the time we get there I'd mostly be concerned about user
> > > >      > confusion (intending to get 'fabric==3.x' but installing 
> > > > 'fabric3'
> > > >      > instead) but that is likely a ways off!
> > > >      >
> > > >      > Best,
> > > >      > Jeff
> > > >      >
> > > >      > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:02 PM <za3k@za3k.com
> > > >     <mailto:za3k@za3k.com> <mailto:za3k@za3k.com 
> > > > <mailto:za3k@za3k.com>>>
> > > >      > wrote:
> > > >      >
> > > >      >     Hi / tag Matthias! I've been talking to the fabric mailing
> > > >     list (cc'd)
> > > >      >     and the fabric developer bitprophet (cc'd). The subject is 
> > > > adding
> > > >      >     python3 support to fabric 1.x (even though 2.x is the 
> > > > latest) as
> > > >      >     part of
> > > >      >     making an official package.
> > > >      >
> > > >      >     bitprophet, the current state is that this is forked off
> > > >     1.14.0, only
> > > >      >     one version behind the latest, and I see no feature 
> > > > additions or
> > > >      >     changes. It's been marked DEPRECATED for a year because 2.x 
> > > > added
> > > >      >     python3 support.
> > > >      >
> > > >      >     mathiasertl, I'd like to merge your fabric3 work into 
> > > > fabric. No
> > > >      >     issues,
> > > >      >     right?
> > > >      >
> > > >      >     Also, bitprophet has mentioned that might be helpful there
> > > >     wasn't a
> > > >      >     pre-existing 'fabric3' pip package out of his control, in 
> > > > case of
> > > >      >     future
> > > >      >     difficulty/confusion with a fabric 3.0 release--I'll leave
> > > >     ya'll to
> > > >      >     talk
> > > >      >     that out.
> > > >      >
> > > >      >
> > > >      >
> > > >      > --
> > > >      > Jeff Forcier
> > > >      > Unix sysadmin; Python engineer
> > > >      > http://bitprophet.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeff Forcier
> > > > Unix sysadmin; Python engineer
> > > > http://bitprophet.org
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Forcier
> > Unix sysadmin; Python engineer
> > https://bitprophet.org
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff Forcier
> Unix sysadmin; Python engineer
> https://bitprophet.org



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https://bitprophet.org



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