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Re: [Fenfire-dev] RDF


From: Benjamin-Elias Fallenstein
Subject: Re: [Fenfire-dev] RDF
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:01:36 +0100 (MET)

Could we first figure out which (newly created) triples should go into which
graph when saving? This seems to be the hard question for me-- the rest then

is relatively easy.

Ideas?

- Benja

> On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 03:23:19AM +0200, Matti Katila wrote:
> > 
> > Morning..
> > 
> > One question which has once and once again raised in my small head is
> RDF:
> > local(ines) and invidual(ines). Currently we use cvs to store literary 
> > rdf which seems to be temporary solution.
> 
> These are excellent discussion points. (BTW: If you work on one of these
> enough, then that would easily go to a master's thesis or PhD, these
> are pretty interesting questions...)
> 
> > - How user can have his/her own rdf graph *with* shared one?
> >     - How to operate between personal rdf graph and shared/other one?
> 
> There are several possibilities here that haven't been thoroughly 
> explored yet.
> 
> The "model_versions--tjl" PEG is related to this.
> 
> The possibilities include
> 
> 1) explicitly adding to the RDF graph reified virtual triples for the
> source
>    of each triple.
> 
>    i.e. we have the triple  a--b--c
> 
>    We would also have
> 
>    foo -- subject -- a
>    foo -- predicate -- b
>    foo -- object -- c
>    foo -- sourcegraph -- osfjlosijflsijfe
> 
> 2) merge the graphs and figure out when saving where to save what, by 
>    simple regexp-like rules
> 
> 3) Make our views and actions
>    operate on several graphs at the same time explicitly
> 
> > - How to keep security between these two(or more)?
> 
> By not allowing scripting ;)
> 
> > - How to publish rdf graph or part of it?
> >     - First idea is just to put storm pointer here but..?
> >     - How to say - publish that canvas and all inside it?
> 
> Maybe a new graph with just those nodes, with *metadata* that says
> "this graph is a subgraph of that graph". This could be made to
> work with versioning, too!
> 
> > - What's our plan to displace web?
> >     - If yes, how we are going to remedy the graphs?
> 
> You mean: "*Is* our plan to displace web"? Yes, certainly ;)
> 
> "remedy"?
> 
> >         - Is the UI of FenPDF the direction that it should look?
> 
> That is pretty hard to say... certainly some of the elements
> but there are lots of different pressures over there...
> 
> 
>  Tuomas
> 
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