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Re: [Fenfire-dev] Fenfire Co-operative

From: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Subject: Re: [Fenfire-dev] Fenfire Co-operative
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:12:55 +0300
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On 20040521T194457+0300, Matti Katila wrote:
> For those who understand finish, Pellervo seura's website is good start.

Please note that our language is named Finnish, with two ens.

> ===========================
> Fenfire osuuskunnan säännöt
> ===========================

My Finnish ears hurt because of this yhdyssanavirhe.

> The co-operative's purpose and line of operations
> is to develop and distribution of Fenfire and related

of the Fenfire software and

> To apply for membership, a written form must be sent to
> the administration, which decides whether the application
> will be accepted. The membership begins with the acceptance
> of the application.

The usual translation for hallitus is the board.  The administration
usually refers to the board's administrative employees too, not just the

> The nominal value of one share is 500 Euros. The share price
> needs to be paid by the member in one part to the
> co-operative's bank account within 30 days of the acceptance
> of the membership application.

Ouch!  That's prohibitively expensive for me (I don't know if you want
me to join, but if the shares are that expensive, it's sure that i will
not join).  Note that if you have a need for a particular capital, you
can easily have a cheaper share and have the founding members take (by
informal agreement) enough additional shares.

> Members can participate in the co-operative with one or more
> voluntary shares if approved by the general meeting.
> The general meeting may confer the right to decide
> about applications for voluntary shares to the administration.
> The right can only be conferred to the administration
> for at most five years at a time.

Is there some reason to restrict the taking of voluntary shares?  In
cooperative tradition, the number of shares has no bearing in the number
of votes a person has (one vote for one person).

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Who are involved in writing the bylaws, and what are their credentials?
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho                  http://www.kaijanaho.info/antti-juhani/

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