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Re: [Fsfe-uk] Re:GNU/Linux, Linux Divide

From: Anthony Ogden
Subject: Re: [Fsfe-uk] Re:GNU/Linux, Linux Divide
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:37:10 +0000
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I have to say that I don't think many end-users should really need to care about their careful
use or understanding of the term "Linux" for "GNU/Linux"

Its nice for the FSF and RMS to get recognition and people like us know this, and can tell people this if we wish to know the origins and history. But at the end of the day its good just to get people to use Linux without them really knowing the historical facts.

There are many many things we use today which will have originated from more than one person/group and if you want to know your history you can look into to find out.

For end users the fact remains, its easier to say "Linux" (although not that easy to get the pronunciation correct!) than it is "GNU/Linux" and its commonly and openly known amongst those that aren't interested in the history or origin simply as Linux, but that doesn't matter... promoting the usage and growth is, no matter what the name. is what

I don't think we should get bogged down in arguing about the name, to me its just important to push Linux as the decent OS that it is and history (although imortant to us, and RMS and the GNU team deserve much credit), is simply a footnote to
an end user.

To us, we know Gnu and Linux go hand-in-hand to make "Linux" the OS, but an
everyday user just shouldn't need to care, most won't know nor care a jot about the
history of Microsoft, so why should they about Linux.

Vanessa Conchodon wrote:

John Seago wrote:

Anyone who can read the installation instructions sufficiently to install a GNU/Linux distribution can understand the term GNU/Linux, if they can't then it's unlikely that they are going to take up membership of AFFS.

Lots of people have installed linux with friends so have never
really read the installations instructions. Others have never
really realised the GNU part, even if they know what GPL is:
they don't realise that linux is not a GNU project and that GNU
has provided the basic utilities. They just know that GNU is
important as there are lots of GNU free software but you can
find also FS which are not GNU.

In January, after the talk of RMS at linux expo, few people came
to the APRIL stand and said that they had just realised why they
should talk about GNU/linux and not only Linux.
Before, talking about GNU/linux instead of Linux was not meaning
something to them.
I even saw few people who were not involved with computing but were
using GNU/linux as they knew people who installed them GNU/linux.
They were end users so reading the installation instructions...

Perhaps people who don't understand yet the term GNU/linux don't
represent a big part of future AFFS members. But they can be
interested in AFFS. You don't need to know how to install GNU/linux
or FS to understand why free software is important and to want to
join AFFS. Being a user is enough.

Btw, we both think that GNU/linux instead of Linux is important ;o)


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