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Re: [Fsfe-uk] AFFS still active?

From: Andrew Savory
Subject: Re: [Fsfe-uk] AFFS still active?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:39:57 +0000


On 26 Jan 2007, at 14:36, MJ Ray wrote:

If that meeting happens at fairly short notice in one corner of the
country (as currently suggested), please offer some remote
participation, or at least record it well and let those who can't
attend review it.  I doubt I'm the only willing hand who might not

I'd suggest remote participation is impractical unless we're in a quiet meeting room with good infrastructure which (a) requires a sponsor to provide and (b) most likely hinders the addition of social lubricants (beer or caffeine) essential to a free and open discussion. I think reporting back to the list would be essential, though.

On 26 Jan 2007, at 15:17, Chris Croughton wrote:

A weekday meeting in London is only convenient to those who work in or
close to London.  I couldn't get to an early evening meeting on a
Tuesday, and later evening (8pm, say) I'd have to leave almost as soon
as I arrived.  This is also a major reason developers don't meet very
often outside local LUGs an the like, after work half the people can't
get there and back at sensible times.  Some also have a life outside
developing software (I know, this is strange for geeks but some are even

Whilst I understand getting to London can be a pain, it is difficult to argue against it being the logical location for any UK-wide meeting. And whilst this is obviously a meeting of volunteers, I think it should be clear that rather than just a sociable geek event, this is about trying to achieve something - which requires a bit of effort to be put in (either by getting employers to sponsor a half- day in order to travel, or taking the initiative and time off for a fun time in the nation's capital, or even giving up a Saturday).

I know you can't please all people all the time, but are the majority able to make a mid-evening weekday London meet? Or do we need to aim for, say, Saturday afternoon?

I'd suggest an Apache style vote: +1 if you can make the time and would show up, -1 if you don't like the idea and can't make it, 0 if you don't care.

[ ] Tuesday 6th February, 6-8pm
[ ] Tuesday 20th February 6-8pm
[ ] Some other Saturday

Here's my vote:
[+1 ] Tuesday 6th February, 6-8pm


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