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RE: gnokii-users digest, Vol 1 #20 - 4 msgs

From:	Yeo Sinlan
Subject:	RE: gnokii-users digest, Vol 1 #20 - 4 msgs
Date:	Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:30:16 +0800
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Unable to send msg from command line (leos)
   2. Re: OR fix the prefix of eachmessage header (leos)
   3. Re: OR fix the prefix of eachmessage header (Karl E. Jorgensen)
   4. Re: OR fix the prefix of eachmessage header (Pawel Kot)

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Message: 1
From: "leos" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Unable to send msg from command line
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 20:04:04 +0300
Reply-To: address@hidden

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Hi Alan,

Gnokii expects getting message text on a standard input so the following
should work for you:

C:\MYGNOKII\WIN32\CONSOLE>echo "Message text" | mygnokii --sendsms =
+************=20

I don't use Windows version but I believe it should be the same. Try it.

Regards,

Leos.


  I'm new to Gnokii and I can successfully use the Mygnokii console =
application to get information from my phone but I can not get the =
--sendsms working properly. The following is output I get when I try it.

  C:\MYGNOKII\WIN32\CONSOLE>mygnokii --sendsms +************ Message =
Test ^D

  Warning: saving 2 chars
  ^C
  (After typing ctrl-d the line appeared to be waiting, after a while i =
typed ctrl-c, "Warning: saving 2 chars" appeared after I typed ctrl-c)



  C:\MYGNOKII\WIN32\CONSOLE>mygnokii --sendsms +************ Message 2 =
Test
  ^D

  =
^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^=
D^D^D^D
  =
^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^=
D^D^D^D

  ^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D
  =
^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^=
D^D^D^D
  ^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D
  Warning: saving 160 chars
  SMS 1/1 sent OK !

  (On this second attempt I held down ctrl-d in frustration and then =
pressed return.  I did receive a message on my phone but it was all ? =
marks and no text, ie "Message 2 Test" did not appear in the text of the =
message).

  I am using a Nokia 3210 witn a fbus cable on Windows 2000.

  Thanks in advance for your help,

  Alan Smith






-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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  Do You Yahoo!?
  Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax

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<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV>Hi Alan,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Gnokii expects getting message text on a standard input so the=20
following</DIV>
<DIV>should work for you:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>C:\MYGNOKII\WIN32\CONSOLE&gt;echo "Message text" | mygnokii =
--sendsms=20
+************ </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I don't use Windows version but I believe it should be the same. =
Try=20
it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Leos.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
  <P>I'm new to Gnokii and I can successfully use the Mygnokii console=20
  application to get information from my phone but I can not get the =
--sendsms=20
  working properly. The following is output I get when I try it.</P>
  <P>C:\MYGNOKII\WIN32\CONSOLE&gt;mygnokii --sendsms +************ =
Message Test=20
  ^D</P>
  <P>Warning: saving 2 chars<BR>^C<BR>(After typing ctrl-d the line =
appeared to=20
  be waiting, after a while i typed ctrl-c, "Warning: saving 2 chars" =
appeared=20
  after I typed ctrl-c)</P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P>C:\MYGNOKII\WIN32\CONSOLE&gt;mygnokii --sendsms +************ =
Message 2=20
  Test<BR>^D</P>
  =
<P>^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D=
^D^D^D^D^D<BR>^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^=
D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D</P>
  =
<P>^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D<BR>^D^D=
^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^=
D^D<BR>^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D^D<BR>Warning:=
=20
  saving 160 chars<BR>SMS 1/1 sent OK !</P>
  <P>(On this second attempt I held down ctrl-d in frustration and then =
pressed=20
  return.&nbsp; I did receive a message on my phone but it was all ? =
marks and=20
  no text, ie "Message 2 Test" did not appear in the text of the =
message).</P>
  <P>I am using a Nokia 3210 witn a fbus cable on Windows 2000.</P>
  <P>Thanks in advance for your help,</P>
  <P>Alan Smith<BR></P>
  <P><BR>
  <HR SIZE=3D1>
  <B>Do You Yahoo!?</B><BR><A=20
  href=3D"$rd_url/welcome/?http://taxes.yahoo.com/";>Yahoo! Tax =
Center</A> - online=20
  filing with TurboTax</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Message: 2
From: "leos" <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 20:51:33 +0300
Subject: Re: OR fix the prefix of eachmessage header
Reply-To: address@hidden

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Dear Karl,


Thank you for your interesting comments...

>> 
>> ==========================================
>> Jochen Schnapka          Re: <some subject description>
>> ==========================================

>As far as I can see, you're using M$Outlook. You should able to change
>which columns are displayed for each message. Try right-clicking on the
>column headings, perhaps?

What I can't understand is why many people here try to teach others 
with basical things and press them in their way of work. Why many
people don't believe that others can have their good reasons for 
doing things their ways?

Yes I did use M$OL just for the last message as every recipient could 
see (e.g. now I use different way) but it is not important. Do you 
really believe that it is very senseful to include next "To:" column 
because of 1% of messages that you propose to identify that way?


>> Are some 3 characters of the prefix so high tax to be unacceptable?

>On most systems, you can have the system sort the mail for you, e.g. by
>using procmail. Or use scoring techniques in mutt. Lots.

Again the same problem: teaching.. ;)) I thought we were not discussing
how to sort or distribute messages (that everybody knows) but how to 
identify them convenient way for everyone, weren't we? What I need is 
getting a fast visual orientation in one chronolically sorted list. 
Hence not subject sorting or including additional columns or beaking 
the list in many partial boxes. 

That's why I asked owners to add some 3-char identification prefix.

I still believe it is acceptable for everyone.

Regards,


Dr Leos.


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:08:31 +0100
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: OR fix the prefix of eachmessage header
From: "Karl E. Jorgensen" <address@hidden>
Reply-To: address@hidden


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On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:51:33PM +0300, leos wrote:
>=20
> Dear Karl,
>=20
>=20
> Thank you for your interesting comments...
>=20
> >>=20
> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> Jochen Schnapka          Re: <some subject description>
> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> >As far as I can see, you're using M$Outlook. You should able to change
> >which columns are displayed for each message. Try right-clicking on the
> >column headings, perhaps?
>=20
> What I can't understand is why many people here try to teach others=20
> with basical things and press them in their way of work. Why many
> people don't believe that others can have their good reasons for=20
> doing things their ways?

I'm sorry if I gave that impression: I'm not trying to *press* anybody
into any specific way of working.

My intention was only to *help*; it's up to everybody to decide for
*themselves* to decide what way is best. And in order to make an
informed decision, it helps to *know* some "other ways" too...

I suspect that English is not your first language, so misunderstandings
can result from that. No problem. I'm Danish (15 east deg, 55 deg
north).

> Yes I did use M$OL just for the last message as every recipient could=20
> see (e.g. now I use different way) but it is not important. Do you=20
> really believe that it is very senseful to include next "To:" column=20
> because of 1% of messages that you propose to identify that way?

The percentages will vary depending on which & how many mailing lists
you subscribe to, how much junk mail you get, number of friends, phase
of the moon and what your boss had for breakfast.=20

Most other mailing lists that I subscribe to add a "X-Mailing-List: "
header to all emails, and this can then be used for filtering and
identification. I had to add a rule in .procmailrc to add that header
myself for e.g. gnokii. I suspect it depends on what software is running
the list.

> >> Are some 3 characters of the prefix so high tax to be unacceptable?
>=20
> >On most systems, you can have the system sort the mail for you, e.g. by
> >using procmail. Or use scoring techniques in mutt. Lots.
>=20
> Again the same problem: teaching.. ;)) I thought we were not discussing

See my comment above. Note that I didn't actually go *against* the
prefix. I just tried to give you a way to work *with* it (Guidance !=3D
Pressure).

> how to sort or distribute messages (that everybody knows) but how to=20
> identify them convenient way for everyone, weren't we? What I need is=20
> getting a fast visual orientation in one chronolically sorted list.=20
> Hence not subject sorting or including additional columns or beaking=20
> the list in many partial boxes.=20

As long as you're aware of the disadvantages (somebody else already
mentioned those in this thread, so I won't bother), and feel that the
advantages outweigh the disadvantages, them I'm fine with that.

> That's why I asked owners to add some 3-char identification prefix.
>=20
> I still believe it is acceptable for everyone.

and I don't mind removing them in my incoming filter (gotta learn perl
anyway) and adding the X-Mailing-List: header. Then I get them
colour-coded and prioritised the way I like it too..

--=20
Karl E. J=F8rgensen
address@hidden
www.karl.jorgensen.com
=3D=3D=3D=3D Today's fortune:
"Never make any mistaeks."
(Anonymous, in a mail discussion about to a kernel bug report.)

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 00:15:23 +0200 (CEST)
From: Pawel Kot <address@hidden>
To:  <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: OR fix the prefix of eachmessage header
Reply-To: address@hidden

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, leos wrote:

> That's why I asked owners to add some 3-char identification prefix.
>
> I still believe it is acceptable for everyone.

gnokii-ml headers provide enough information to be able to extract them.

pkot
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