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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US
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Tom Lord |
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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US |
Date: |
Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:38:22 -0700 (PDT) |
My biggest objections to Pierce are that:
a) He's mostly very boring.
b) He tries to shift debate from the hot issue that attracts
the interest of many raeaders to a lesser issue for which
he has lots of prepared responses. A reply to his specific
points would, for the most part, be a digression from the
original topic. I, for one, have trouble regarding him as
an honest debator, therefore. (E.g., a debate topic about
structural facism arising in the u.s.? pierce wnts to turn
that into a debate about the objectivity of the press.).
On this point it is a blessing that we have so many
non-USians participating: Pierce's outright absurdities
and non-sequitors have resonance within the US that I think
they mostly lack outside the US.
c) One lacks the sense, in speaking with him, that this is a
debate conducted for our mutual enlightenment -- rather,
one senses that he is in this thread to "win a game" rather
than to be an intellectual. (Cites do not an intellectual
make.) I've never felt as though any of his posts towards
me ask a question about my views that I might answer;
rather, the consistent feeling is that his posts towards me
invite me into a debate that can be prolonged,
meaninglessly, indefinately.
My tentative and reluctant conclusion, therefore, is that people
should mostly ignore him except where it is expedient to formulate a
real message as a reply to one of his bogus messages. _We_ have work
to do. _He_ has an abstract debate to win.
-t
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Robin Green, 2004/07/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Ron Parker, 2004/07/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Tom Lord, 2004/07/19
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Pierce T . Wetter III, 2004/07/19
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Miles Bader, 2004/07/19
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Pierce T . Wetter III, 2004/07/19
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US,
Tom Lord <=
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Pierce T . Wetter III, 2004/07/19
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Tom Lord, 2004/07/20
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Pierce T . Wetter III, 2004/07/20
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Samium Gromoff, 2004/07/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Pierce T . Wetter III, 2004/07/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, nadim, 2004/07/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Pierce T . Wetter III, 2004/07/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, nadim, 2004/07/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Pierce T . Wetter III, 2004/07/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US, Michael Poole, 2004/07/26