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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] new language, arch, furth, etc.


From: Talli Somekh
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] new language, arch, furth, etc.
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:31:43 -0400

Colin, I must admit that I've listened to your complaints about Tom's work both on the mailing list and on the irc channel, and they are getting tiring mostly because it's not clear you are or are willing to listen to Tom's ideas.

Aaron has been as vociferous as you in opposition to this, but said he's at least willing to sit back and hear out what the ideas are.

Please, for the benefit of everyone (or at least me), chill out for a second and let Tom explain. He's earned that privilege (and plenty more), I think

talli

On Jul 20, 2004, at 12:21 PM, Colin Walters wrote:

On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 11:12 -0500, Charles Duffy wrote:
On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 10:59, Colin Walters wrote:
Because it's the same as the existing RFC822-compatible format, so there
is no new format being created, and certainly isn't anywhere near
turing-complete.

I'm sorry -- languages have to be Turing-complete?

No, but Tom is trying to argue that an new version of such a language is
needed.

And RFC822 isn't one?

It is a language.  But it is a very well known one that is already in
use in arch and works well.

I thought that Turing-complete was a quality that languages may or may
not possess, not a prerequirement for being a language at all.

The point is that Tom's example did not demonstrate the need for a new
Turing-complete language.

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