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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] porting torbrowser, fsdg questions


From: ng0
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] porting torbrowser, fsdg questions
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:37:38 +0000

Luke transcribed 5.0K bytes:
> On 03/31/2017 02:34 PM, ng0 wrote:
> > ng0 transcribed 1.3K bytes:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have the intention to package torbrowser for Guix, a project I
> >> contribute to.
> >> I have started to communicate about this with torproject and some other
> >> projects. In obvious licenses it is okay. What is not clear to me, are
> >> the parts which were changed for example in icecat compared to firefox.
> >>
> >> Depending on what needs to be removed, we could still use the torbrowser
> >> theme and everything connected to it[0]. I just have no idea where to start
> >> sorting out items which might conflict with
> >> https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html
> >>
> >> The obvious thing is, we do not want to encourage the use of the Mozilla
> >> Addon Service (or anything *.mozilla.org). Actually we can move all the
> >> applicable, fitting addons into Guix packages, at least someone
> >> started working on this for the Guix packaged icecat.
> >> What else? If Torproject allows us to use their trademarks,
> >> firefox/mozilla trademarks are still off the table, that's clear.
> >>
> >> What I do not need help with or advice on are issues with the actual 
> >> packaging
> >> process or issues beyond the application etc, that's up to myself,
> >> torproject, and I know what issues can arise and need to be investigated
> >> or pointed out (for example that it's not an official build but an
> >> replica of what torbrowser developers do).
> >>
> >> 0: That's why I'm asking you, so that I can continue communicating about
> >> this with torproject.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Alright, I've taken a look at torbrowser 6.5.1 now (previously all I did
> > was building it, I stopped using it a while ago)
> >
> >
> > The about dialogue is torproject and only gives respect to Mozilla in
> > one line, namely the version:
> > "6.5.1 (based on Mozilla Firefox 45.8.0)"
> >
> > is this okay? is this problematic? I don't know. Names are names, and I
> > don't think we can get in trouble (if torproject allows the branding to
> > be used) for using a branding where a reference to Mozilla Firefox is
> > kept.
> >
> > Moving on:
> >
> > The obvious parts in Preferences are:
> > The Addon Store accesses Mozilla (which promotes non-free addons, extensions
> > etc). Trivial to change thanks to icecat.
> > Firefox "Sync" is enabled (surprising to me), can be disabled again
> > thanks to icecat.
> > "Search" lists Google, should probably-maybe be removed.
> >
> > Next real question I have is about "about:license".
> > I think if this is relevant from our perspective, and the only mistake
> > were that Torproject torbrowser developers did not add their pieces of
> > tor and other included software in there, this can be talked about with
> > them. But to do so, I would need a second pair of eyes to go over it and
> > tell me wether this can cause problems when you work under the FSDG or
> > not.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ng0
> >
> >
> I don't see where they have removed DRM. We have to do it in order to
> meet FSDG compliance for Parabola.[1][2]
> 
> This appears to be enabled in recent versions of TBB.[3]
> 
> 
> Luke
> Parabola GNU/Linux-libre Packager
> https://parabola.nu
> 
> 1. https://git.parabola.nu/abslibre.git/tree/libre/iceweasel/vendor.js#n23
> 
> 2. https://git.parabola.nu/abslibre.git/tree/libre/iceweasel/mozconfig#n39
> 
> 3.
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-browser.git/tree/browser/app/profile/firefox.js?h=tor-browser-45.8.0esr-7.0-1#n1511
> 
> 

Thanks!

anyone else got some insights they want to share?

Otherwise I'll get back with this information to torproject.

Afterwards I'll continue hacking on this port/package.
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