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Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software

From: Aaron R. Kulkis
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:41:42 -0500

Les Mikesell wrote:
> "T. Max Devlin" <> wrote in message
> > Said Stuart Krivis in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 11 Mar 2001 04:25:40
> > >On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:40:44 GMT, T. Max Devlin <>
> wrote:
> > >>enjoy his freedom.  Had society insisted that all software be GPL since
> > >>before TCP was developed, the Internet would work just fine, save a
> > >>re-arrangement in the specifics of the business model used by the
> > >>earliest developers.  Claims that the modern world wouldn't exist but
> > >>for BSD sound rather like Mr. Ballard's routine claims that the Internet
> > >
> > >I feel that TCP/IP would not have been used as widely if it had been
> > >under a more restrictive license. One could argue that it was the
> > >widespread use of BSD software that made the Internet possible.
> >
> > Of course; and one can argue it until everybody is simply nauseous, and
> > it won't mean a thing.
> Some people can't learn from anything, not even experience....
> >  Had BSDL not allowed re-proprietizing of code,
> > perhaps vendors which wished to interoperate with TCP/IP would have had
> > to actually write software to do it, instead of just profiteering off of
> > somebody else's work.
> This isn't a figment of someone's imagination here.  There were other
> competing protocols that could have been used.  TCP is the one
> that anyone was allowed to use.  And they did.
> > I feel I must reject any argument, on the face of it, which attempts to
> > declare that without profiteering, some facet of modern technology
> > 'would not have been possible'.  Such a position is self-defeating.
> How so?    Overwhelm me with your examples of advancing
> technology that exists in spite of the fact that everyone who
> produces it loses money.

Reminds me of a game called Cosmic Encounter.

It is currently on its 5th publisher.  Despite the fact that this particular
game is popular (for that class of games), every publisher who has touched it
has gone out of business...including the once mighty Avalon Hill.

>       Les Mikesell

Aaron R. Kulkis
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