Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better

[Aaron R. Kulkis]

Salvador Peralta wrote:
> 
> Jay Maynard quoth:
> 
> >>You would THINK you have a right to OWN property in the United States
> >>but this is not true either.  If you fail to pay your taxes on
> >>the poperty you "OWN?" you will loose it to court ordered forfeiture.
> >
> > Absent an obligation like taxation, though, property rights are
> > sacrosanct;
> 
> That's an idealistic view which is incompatible with historical
> reality. There is no such thing as a sacrosanct right from a historical
> point of view.  The US Constitution has held sway for less than 3% of
> recorded history.  For 40% of that 3% period, slavery was legal in the
> United States.  For 70% of that period, > 50% of the population was
> disenfranchised and for the majority of that time, not allowed to own
> property.

Recent arguments from that same camp (we can't help it if we don't
use birth control and sleep around and get pregnant and don't use
the abortion we fought for, so YOU OWE US MONEY!!!!) are to the effect
of "we are legally incompetant".

Well, anybody who is legall incompetant needs a legal caretaker.


It's ironic that the current feminist arguments for mandatory child
support, REGARDLESS of the fact that women *DO* in fact, have several
options to prevent having children which they cannot support, are,
in the end, CONCLUSIVE arguments for re-establishing the very same
patriarchal system which they love to complain about.



> 
> For the first 40-60% of its recorded history, the United States was an
> imperialist nation that had zero respect for the "property rights" of
> North America's indigenous people in the face of the nation's "manifest
> destiny".

And people claim that we don't really need the 2nd Amendment by
using the "it can't happen here" argument.....conveniently forgetting
that it ALREADY *has* "happened here".

> 
> Tell the spanish descended landowners in the American Southwest in the
> early 20th century that their property rights were sacrosanct.
> 
> We like to think that we are more civilized in the modern era, but tell
> the Japanese Americans who were stripped of their personal property
> without compensation and placed in internment camps during world war II
> that their property rights were sacrosanct.

Same comment on the 2nd Amendment and "can't happen here"

I find it ironic that leftist-liberals LOVE to talk about Hitler's crimes,
but say nary a peep about FDR's and Stalin's.

> 
> The idea of sacrosanct rights in a nation state exists only insofar as
> their is a stable and fair government existing in generally peaceful
> and prosperous times.
> 
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> 
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Aaron R. Kulkis
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.