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Re: When Will GNU/Linux Be Ready for Joe User?

From: John Smith
Subject: Re: When Will GNU/Linux Be Ready for Joe User?
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:29:11 GMT

:) that would be a nice experiment with your sister and her children.
let me know how it works.

limited experience shouldn't be a problem for any tinkerer. if you've
learned how to use linux you're that much ahead. some of the windows
programmers i know (not to disparage them or anything) are so used to the
tools they use out of the box that any features that aren't "out" by default
aren't used that much or known at all at times.

i started out feeling like i had limited experience too (which i actually
did)... that didn't stop me from getting a job and honestly being a good
employee, and most importantly good at what i do. so that shouldn't keep you
from doing whatever you want to do... career-wise.

good luck.

"Circuit Breaker" <> wrote in message">
> On Wed, 19 May 2004 01:07:23 -0400, John Smith wrote:
> > :) wow is your circuit breaking? (j/k no offense intended)
> >
> > as a programmer and a tinkerer myself, i generally agree with you. but
> > there are things that my mom, sister or lil nieces and nephews need to
> > be able to do with the computer without spending too much time learning
> > how to use the computer. linux on the desktop, just to be fair, does
> > need some improvement in this general area. i think that's what the guy
> > meant when he asked when it's ready for the average joe.
> I agree it does need improvement, but we can't argue that Windows has
> plenty of room for improvement itself.  I agree that it comes down to
> using the best tool for the job.  For the job of being A.J.'s home
> system, either could be used equally effectively IMO.  In my case, it
> came down to personal preference.  My computer is slow, so constantly
> rebooting to solve problems is not an option.  I'd rather pop to tty1 and
> killall a runaway task, or ssh in from my other computer to do the same.
> I'm sure I could do these things in Windows if I *really* wanted to, but
> I've never seen how.  With Linux, I was seeing how almost from the very
> beginning.  And I learned.  And I liked it :-)
> Last time I learned -- really /learned/ -- something useful about windows
> was back when I installed Win 2000 on this machine several years back.
> I learn stuff about Linux all the freakin' time.  And it's not hard stuff
> to learn, either.  Just a lot of it.
> Of course, I could quit reading newsgroups and stick to simple stuff like
> browsing the web and watching TV on my comp;  I already have these things
> installed and operational.  However, since I have the option of learning,
> I'm going to use it to my advantage and take in as much as I can.
> I've got a chance at an experiment.  My sister is bringing her husband
> and three children -- kids about 7 to 12, the husband about 30-ish --
> to my area for my other sister's wedding.  They will be staying at my
> house, and undoubtedly, the kids will want to use the computer(s).  The
> oldest, Joey, he's 12, will probably not be using the comp since he is
> grounded for reasons of scholastic discipline, but the girls, 7 and 10,
> will probably be using it.
> I plan to set each up with individual user accounts.  I then will
> probably set them up with KDE or GNOME so they get something remotely
> Windows-ish.  I'll point out what the icons are, if necessary (I don't
> know what they look like in KDE/GNOME as I don't use those two), and I'll
> watch over them for the first little while to see if they have any
> trouble.  If they're doing fine, I'll leave them alone and see how
> they're doing later on.  I'll have the internet already connected, as I
> use wvdial for that and it needs root to use it (for now).  Also, they're
> used to cable, so they don't have to dial anything.  They just open a
> browser and go.
> Anyway, I'll have Gaim on the desktop, maybe get an ICQ client (don't
> know if they have any accounts, but oh well), games galore, and I can't
> imagine that any of them will want to use any office productivity apps,
> but I can install those real easy too.  Then, of course, there are
> browsers installed, including Netscape (pronounced "Mozilla") and Mozilla
> (also pronounced "Mozilla"), so they should be able to recognize those
> icons rather quickly.
> So, I'll see how they do and probably post the results.  Of course, they
> may not have any interest at all in playing the computer.
> > we're all just working folks trying to put foods on the table here;
> Some of us are.  I want to be, just haven't found anything yet for my
> limited experience level.

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