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Re: LGPL reverse engineering clause & Java


From: Alexander Terekhov
Subject: Re: LGPL reverse engineering clause & Java
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:12:18 +0100

David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> writes:
> 
> > Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > [...]
> >> The intent of the "first sale" doctrine of 17 USC 109 is pretty clearly not
> >> to allow someone to sell/distribute endless copies of a single object;
> >> even if those copies are obtained legally and are not tainted by the
> >> "backup" clause.
> >
> > And what makes you think so? Well, see
> >
> > http://digital-law-online.info/lpdi1.0/quotes/fn1-65.htm
> >
> > <quote>
> >
> > Section 109(a) restates and confirms the principle that, where the
> > copyright owner has transferred ownership of a particular copy or
> > phonorecord of a work, the person to whom the copy or phonorecord
> > is transferred is entitled to dispose of it by sale, rental, or any
> > other means.
> 
> So what about "transferred ownership" and "particular copy" don't you
> understand?

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cauv72%249nu%241%40vegh.ks.cc.utah.edu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cauvfk%249sc%241%40vegh.ks.cc.utah.edu

And, BTW, in the case of winxp64 copy you oughta buy from me, I mean:

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: 
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: 
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--- 

> 
> > Thus, for example, the outright sale of an authorized copy of a
> > book frees it from any copyright control over its resale price
> > or other conditions of its future disposition.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> So what about "outright sale" and "authorized copy" don't you
> understand?

I understand it quite well. 

Now, what about "for example" don't *you* understand?

regards,
alexander.

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