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Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

From: Alexander Terekhov
Subject: Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:57:10 +0200

David Kastrup wrote:
> > And once again you conflate the market under attack by the copyleft
> > conspiracy with its ancillary markets.
> Nothing but the "ancillary market" is relevant here. 

Only to you and other GNUtians. Wallace's case is not about ancillary 
>                                                      We are talking
> about the business of selling operating systems, not of selling labor.

Wallace is talking about selling Intellectual Property.

> Wallace is free to sell his labor to whatever operating system vendor
> wants to buy it. 

Sure he is free. But he wants to become a vendor of his SciBSD 
operating system and use some IP value based business model. 
>                  But that's not what he wants.  He purports to want
> to sell operating system copies himself, and exactly that is what you
> call "ancillary market".

You again attempt to conflate. Think of it this way: Red Hat doesn't 
sell operating system copies. Go try to buy a used one (archaic 
pre-"subscription model" copies don't count).

> > Is it really that hard to grasp that those ancillary markets will
> > function in exactly the same way (if not better) when copyleft is
> > outlawed and Linux becomes non- copyleft free software?
> You can't outlaw copyleft since it is simply a normal use of a
> creator's copyright. 

It's far from normal.
>                      And those ancillary markets work better with
> copyleft: exactly that is the problem for Wallace: he can't sell his
> personal reinvention of the wheel because the market already has the
> means to supply better ones on a sustainable basis.

Nonsense. Wallace case is not about ancillary markets to begin with,
and his reuse of BSD and alike licensed code in SciBSD is hardly 


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