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Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:47:42 +0200
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Alexander Terekhov <> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
>> Alexander Terekhov <> writes:
>> > David Kastrup wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> Then there is no predatory pricing since RedHat is not selling below
>> >> cost at all.
>> >
>> > RedHat sells support, delivery, and maintenance contracts on annual
>> > subscription bases.  RedHat's GPL'd IP in pooled derivative and
>> > collective works is price-fixed at "no charge" and is available
>> > gratis.
>> How can one talk about "price-fixed at no charge" in the same
>> paragraph with "sells delivery contracts"?  The price obviously is not
>> fixed but variable, and people make use of the variation.
> Uh. Ok, once again: RedHat's IP is "price-fixed at no charge" and is
> available gratis. Nothing variable.

I don't see anything like "RedHat IP -- $0" listed on their page.  In
fact, they retain their IP and don't give their copyright away.  They
provide, however, downloads for $0, so they price a particular form of
_copies_ at no charge.  They also price other copy forms at larger
charges.  It is like a free art catalogue: you are free to cut and
paste and frame stuff from the catalogue for your home, but they make
their money with people buying the pieces advertised in that manner.

> Ancillary service that they supply is priced far above costs of
> providing the service (above predatory levels) and it is used to
> recoup loses from GPL conspiracy and turn a profit. Got it now?

It is called advertising.  People recoup losses from the advertising
conspiracy (there are even whole billboards and gazettes for the sole
purpose of advertising) and turn a profit.  This sort of "conspiracy"
is pretty common nowadays.  In fact, almost every business does it.
Got it now?

I think that you have omitted invectives and expletives from this
thread for too long now.  People will think you are an imposter if you
don't correct this oversight soon.

David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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