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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "GPLv2 does not state that you have
From: |
Alexander Terekhov |
Subject: |
Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "GPLv2 does not state that you have to become a slave of rms" |
Date: |
Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:30:55 +0200 |
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, Michael Gerdau wrote:
> >
> > I beg to differ. By adopting _his_ license you adopted his view.
>
> I'm sorry, but that's simply bullshit.
>
> The GPLv2 does not state that you have to become a slave of rms and follow
> him in all things, and agree with him. Really. You must have read some
> other (perhaps unreleased early draft?) version.
>
> The GPLv2 says what it says. Not what you (or rms) *wished* it says.
>
> You don't enter into contracts and licenses based on wishes and intents.
> That's just not how it works.
>
> > > (b) The language in the preamble: "must give the recipients all the
> > > rights that you have" means really *all* the rights and abilities!
> >
> > I always did imply a "within reason".
>
> Your view is not relevant. The fact that the "preamble" is not the
> "conditions" is what's relevant.
>
> The preamble is explicitly stated to be *different* from the exact
> conditions. It's not the real "terms of copying". It's there to explain,
> it's not there to *be* the license.
>
> It's explanatory, but the wording that actually *matters* is the "terms
> and conditions".
>
> And the fact that *you* can mentally add words to it when you read the
> license (adding a "within reason") has absolutely no relevance
> what-so-ever.
>
> Linus
regards,
alexander.
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