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Re: IBM doesn't like the GPL

From: Alexander Terekhov
Subject: Re: IBM doesn't like the GPL
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:34:11 +0100

Hyman Rosen wrote:
> Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> > Hyman Rosen wrote:
> >> On the contrary, the campaign successfully led to Sun
> >> releasing Java under the GPL,
> >
> > Putting SUN's stock price into free fall, bringing massive layoffs, and
> > fire sale of the company. GNU's made a great job at SUN.
> Except that Java was always "open source". The source code was
> available for download and use for free for many years before
> it was released under the GPL. Releasing it under the GPL made
> it possible to incorporate it into pure Free Software projects.

And how did that help SUN?

> > If IBM acquires SUN you can be assured that open sourced version of Java
> > will end up as either eclipse or apache project with its license changed
> > away from the GPL pretty soon.
> >
> > Buh-bye GPL'd Java.
> But products under the Apache license and Eclipse license are free software
> and are compatible with the GPL. 

Being on the FSF's list of licenses "compatible with the GPL" doesn't
turn a license into the GPL, silly.

And, BTW, Eclipse license is "incompatible with the GNU GPL".

"Eclipse Public License Version 1.0 

The Eclipse Public License is similar to the Common Public License, and
our comments on the CPL apply equally to the EPL. The only change is
that the EPL removes the broader patent retaliation language regarding
patent infringement suits specifically against Contributors to the EPL'd

"Common Public License Version 1.0 

This is a free software license. Unfortunately, its weak copyleft and
choice of law clause make it incompatible with the GNU GPL."



(GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can
be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards
too, whereas GNU cannot.)

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