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Re: More FSF hypocrisy

From: Alan Mackenzie
Subject: Re: More FSF hypocrisy
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:23:46 +0000 (UTC)
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Good Morning, RJack!

Rjack <> wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> Rjack <> wrote:
>>> Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> Rjack <> wrote:
>>>>> Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> Please also get out a bit, socialise with people other than 
>>>> RMS and go for a reality check on what GNU is.

> I just can't seem to tear myself away from him. Pant. Pant.

And that is the plain truth.  You're obsessed by him.  If you look
closely at photographs of him, you'll see he doesn't really have horns
or a barbed tail.

>>> Now you that have repeatedly inferred that I'm a "dick" while 
>>> lecturing me on insulting people, why not go have a nice cup of
>>> coffee and contemplate the meaning of "don't be a 
>>> hypocritical, self-righteous prick"?

>> No, you've misunderstood me yet again.  I have imputed that you 
>> HAVE BEEN BEHAVING like a dick, on the assumption you're quite 
>> able to behave congenially too.

> That's one of the lamest rhetorical "distinction without a
> difference" excuses I've ever heard.

Not at all.  Everybody behaves like a dick from time to time, it's
part of being human.  Nearly everybody recognises this in themselves,
and backs off, apologises, or resolves not to do it again, as

>> I have commented on what you have done, not what you are, with 
>> the request that you change your behaviour.

> So... I'm not *really* a "dick" -- I just act like a "dick" huh?

Better phrased, you have been acting like a dick, but there's nothing
compelling you to carry on doing so.

>>> The way I see it, your complaints may be may easily addressed:
>>> 1) Get permission to moderate the Free Software Foundation's 
>>> servers or;
>>> 2) Use a killfile (quick and efficient) or;
>>> 3) Continue to engage in a pissing contest with me (i.e. "feed
>>> the troll"), as I have a substantial amount of free time 
>>> available or;
>>> 4) Stop playing "big brother" protector to those you perceive 
>>> I've insulted since it is demeaning to them to imply they can't
>>> defend themselves or;
>>> 5) Just shut the fuck up since you are obviously a 
>>> hypocritical, self-righteous prick.
>> You just don't get it, probably you don't want to.

> Trolls have extremely poor cognitive skills.

Not always.  I don't think you're a troll, though.  I think you've been
quite sincere in what you've been writing.  A troll in a hole would have
stopped digging by now.

>> Most people around Usenet, mailing lists and the like, recognise
>>  that basic courtesy is a prerequisite for the group/list/forum
>> to work properly.

> Ahh...courtesy. I've thoroughly reviewed the history of this group's
> messages and found myself to be the lone poster to insult anyone.

Look further - lots of posters other than yourself have insulted people.

>> When that courtesy is lacking, the group becomes dysfunctional, 
>> as gnu.misc.discuss has clearly become.  Maybe that's what you 
>> want.

> If it's a dysfunctional group why are *you* posting here?

In the hope that it will start working again.

>> Are you capable of backing off?

> Uhhh... you just chose alternative #3 above:

> "3) Continue to engage in a pissing contest with me (i.e. "feed the
> troll"), as I have a substantial amount of free time available."

What else do you do in your free time?

Well thank you!  ;-)

>> Of recognising that other people also have rights?

> Like the God given right to choose to use a killfile when desired?

Me or any other individual poster using a killfile won't solve the core
problem in this mailing list, namely that the massive number of obsessive
postings on one tiny topic is disuading people from posting on the list.

>> I sincerely suggest you ask a good friend, assuming you have one,
>> to tell you what he/she REALLY thinks of you, and to listen to 
>> what gets said.

> I don't have any good friends. I pissed them all off when I insulted
> them.

I hope you're being sarcastic there.

But think of this.  Your entire voluminous output here is based on hate,
hate for a GNU which is some dark cult whose sole purpose is to destroy
whatever it is you hold dear and turn the world communist.  Yet this GNU
doesn't exist, it's a product of your fantasy; the real GNU is a body of
software.  Now some people around here, but not me, might find it quite
funny that you hate so intensely something that doesn't exist.

I earnestly recommend you to redirect your energies to something that you
love - whether that's fostering proprietary software, singing tenor in a
local operatic society, restoring junk cars, exploring South America,
whatever.  If there isn't anything you love, then get something.  It
makes for a much better life.

Anyhow, I'll be busy with other things for the rest of the day, so I wish
you a good one.

Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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