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Re: Stallman calls for an end to file sharing war

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Stallman calls for an end to file sharing war
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:02:25 -0000
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Hadron<> writes:

> David Kastrup <> writes:
>> Hadron<> writes:
>>> Why may people not use the Nazi symbol even when using it to fight
>>> Naziism?
>> I recommend you look at appropriate court decisions.  Yes, people
>> were brought to court because of using the Swastika in antifascistic
>> contexts, but they won those cases.
> Immaterial. It's still illegal.

You mean, the courts decided wrong according to the law?

>>> Why can a historian not legally purchase an original Iron Cross
>>> (ultimate symbol for bravery)?
>> Why wouldn't he be able to?
> The Iron Cross with the Swastika on it is banned afaik. But I'm going
> on hearsay...

The Iron Cross is an old item dating back to Prussian times in the 19th
century (and it is still awarded today).  I think somewhere in the
family we have a WWI version from my grandfather.  You are talking about
the WWII version apparently.

If you take a look at <URL:>,
you'll see that the versions with the swastika on them have not been

Yes, bartering, displaying, and in particular advertising Nazi symbols
is not legally unproblematic in Germany.  I don't see that historians
are significantly impeded.

David Kastrup

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