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Re: Stallman calls for an end to file sharing war

From: Hadron
Subject: Re: Stallman calls for an end to file sharing war
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:02:27 -0000
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David Kastrup <> writes:

> Hadron<> writes:
>> David Kastrup <> writes:
>>> Hadron<> writes:
>>>> Why may people not use the Nazi symbol even when using it to fight
>>>> Naziism?
>>> I recommend you look at appropriate court decisions.  Yes, people
>>> were brought to court because of using the Swastika in antifascistic
>>> contexts, but they won those cases.
>> Immaterial. It's still illegal.
> You mean, the courts decided wrong according to the law?
>>>> Why can a historian not legally purchase an original Iron Cross
>>>> (ultimate symbol for bravery)?
>>> Why wouldn't he be able to?
>> The Iron Cross with the Swastika on it is banned afaik. But I'm going
>> on hearsay...
> The Iron Cross is an old item dating back to Prussian times in the 19th
> century (and it is still awarded today).  I think somewhere in the
> family we have a WWI version from my grandfather.  You are talking
> about

I cant think I could explain it more clearly : the one/s with the
Swastika on.

> the WWII version apparently.
> If you take a look at <URL:>,
> you'll see that the versions with the swastika on them have not been
> censored.
> Yes, bartering, displaying, and in particular advertising Nazi symbols
> is not legally unproblematic in Germany.  I don't see that historians
> are significantly impeded.

Are you able to discuss things without dragging the subject into petty

Nazi symbols may not legally be used : forget the odd court case
reprieving some innocent.

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