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Re: Some thoughts on censorship in this mailing list.

From: Mark Wielaard
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on censorship in this mailing list.
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 00:24:23 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13)

Hi Marcel,

On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 09:52:52PM +0700, Marcel wrote:
> I did not harass anyone. I expressed myself, as I am doing now, and
> every time I did so, my posts were silently kept from the list.
> If all three versions of my response all violated the censor's rules, so
> did her message; at least as far as it concerned the "harshness"
> Guideline toward RMS. I asked the censors to point to the "offending
> parts" so that I could remove them and post the rest of my response. I
> was not told which parts had to be removed.
> After my second version was rejected, I decided I would debug my message
> and see what parts made it through. I chose to start with the last bit,
> which I will not quote again because it was also rejected and may cause
> this whole message to be rejected.

You were repeatedly posting to a very heated thread that we had to
silence because multiple people were repeatedly sending personal
sexist attacks which spiraled horribly out of control as explained in
that thread:
You should also have gotten an explanation with the rejection message.
If that message wasn't clear my apologies. The huge number of message
might have meant you got a template message instead of something fully

There is some more guidelines for posting to the list here:

Specifically for this list:

   Flaming is out of place.  Tit-for-tat is not welcome.  Repetition
   should not occur.

   Good READING and writing are expected.  Before posting, wait a
   while, cool off, and think.

So take your time to reply and think whether you actually have a new
point to make, or if you are just restating your opinion again. If
possible bundle your replies to several messages. Restricting yourself
to just one message a day to the list is not a bad thing.

> I believe you are confused about the meaning of the censorship I
> suffered in this mailing list. Was I the only one? Is it still ongoing
> (it seems not, but I cannot tell when my next post will be censored
> again). I read from Dora's first post to this list that she was made to
> wait for five days before being granted membership. That is another
> example of censorship. had some trouble with processing all the emails last
week. That meant some messages were stuck in the queue for multiple
days. That included mailman administrative emails. I believe those
issues have now been resolved and emails flow more quickly now.



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