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Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines
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DJ Delorie |
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Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines |
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Sat, 04 Jan 2020 00:48:17 -0500 |
Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> The hypothetical case you wish to present would be dividing GNU
> project and FSF, which also does not make sense.
I agree.
> Please note that RMS is founder of the FSF, and hypothetically, with
> help of few members, could also re-submit the Articles of Association
> of the FSF and could make quite a new FSF structure.
I suggested that that happen, to close this loophole.
> making, in my personal opinion and based on the Massachusets laws
> where FSF was incorporated, RMS could insist on the influence or
> policies of the FSF in such a way, that those hypothetical divisions
> of the GNU project and FSF could be limited, or that other directions
> of the FSF could be controlled as he wish.
So let's amend the policies! Isn't that what we're all talking about?
> According to US laws on trademarks, that would be very hard. As number
> one, the trademark was meant for GNU project, as I said there are
I didn't say "GNU project" I said "RMS". If they assigned someone else
do perform that function, they would still - legally, not morally - be
acting in the interests of the GNU project - as they see it. It would
be horrible and messy and entirely unlikely, but legally they could do
it. Let's change it!
> To have ownership of trademark is not the power to
> choose the leader,
I did say indirectly. They can't "choose a leader" but they can empower
someone to effectively become the leader, at least to a degree. We all
seem to agree this is wrong, but instead of fixing it, we continue
arguing with each other about words.
> I wish you would get advise by attorney.
If the conversation has gotten to this point, both sides have lost.
> I find it actually bad manners that you are hypothetically giving
> readers of this mailing list an opportunity to divide FSF and GNU.
I find it disheartening that you assume that's my purpose. By exposing
the hypothetical problem, we can solve it before it becomes a real
problem.
> You said, you don't want that to happen, but then again, you are the
> one presenting the opportunity to others.
I doubt they need *me* to see this opportunity.
> GNU leader is not chosen, GNU leader decided himself to create GNU
> project.
The GNU leader himself has already said he's working on how to choose a
successor, though.
- Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines, (continued)
Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines (was: Re: A GNU “social contract”?), Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/01/03
Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines, Jean Louis, 2020/01/04
Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines,
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Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2020/01/04
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Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines, Dora Scilipoti, 2020/01/06
Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines, Jean Louis, 2020/01/08
Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines, DJ Delorie, 2020/01/04
Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines, Jean Louis, 2020/01/05
Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines (was: Re: A GNU “social contract”?), Andreas R., 2020/01/06