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Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines

From: DJ Delorie
Subject: Re: GNU - Principles and Guidelines
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2020 00:48:17 -0500

Jean Louis <> writes:
> The hypothetical case you wish to present would be dividing GNU
> project and FSF, which also does not make sense.

I agree.

> Please note that RMS is founder of the FSF, and hypothetically, with
> help of few members, could also re-submit the Articles of Association
> of the FSF and could make quite a new FSF structure.

I suggested that that happen, to close this loophole.

> making, in my personal opinion and based on the Massachusets laws
> where FSF was incorporated, RMS could insist on the influence or
> policies of the FSF in such a way, that those hypothetical divisions
> of the GNU project and FSF could be limited, or that other directions
> of the FSF could be controlled as he wish.

So let's amend the policies!  Isn't that what we're all talking about?

> According to US laws on trademarks, that would be very hard. As number
> one, the trademark was meant for GNU project, as I said there are

I didn't say "GNU project" I said "RMS".  If they assigned someone else
do perform that function, they would still - legally, not morally - be
acting in the interests of the GNU project - as they see it.  It would
be horrible and messy and entirely unlikely, but legally they could do
it.  Let's change it!

> To have ownership of trademark is not the power to
> choose the leader,

I did say indirectly.  They can't "choose a leader" but they can empower
someone to effectively become the leader, at least to a degree.  We all
seem to agree this is wrong, but instead of fixing it, we continue
arguing with each other about words.

> I wish you would get advise by attorney.

If the conversation has gotten to this point, both sides have lost.

> I find it actually bad manners that you are hypothetically giving
> readers of this mailing list an opportunity to divide FSF and GNU.

I find it disheartening that you assume that's my purpose.  By exposing
the hypothetical problem, we can solve it before it becomes a real

> You said, you don't want that to happen, but then again, you are the
> one presenting the opportunity to others.

I doubt they need *me* to see this opportunity.

> GNU leader is not chosen, GNU leader decided himself to create GNU
> project.

The GNU leader himself has already said he's working on how to choose a
successor, though.

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