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Re: [gnugo-devel] Gnu Go Ladder Challenge


From: Daniel Bump
Subject: Re: [gnugo-devel] Gnu Go Ladder Challenge
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:29:52 -0700

Here is the game from the Jacqueline's challenge to GNU Go in the
Computer Go Ladder. GNU Go won.

Dan

(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[9]KM[7.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[DeepGnu]PB[jacqueline]DT[2008-10-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at 
http://www.gokgs.com/]C[DeepGnu [-\]: GTP Engine for DeepGnu (white): GNU Go 
version 3.7.12
]RE[W+88.50]
;B[ee]BL[1774.523]
;W[ce]WL[1799.766]
;B[cd]BL[1727.861]
;W[bd]WL[1799.39]C[gunnar [?\]: Wow, this board is huge. I'm only been studying 
6x6 the last weeks. :-)
]
;B[dd]BL[1710.749]
;W[bf]WL[1798.16]C[gunnar [?\]: B6 looks rather low.
]
;B[gf]BL[1698.785]
;W[gc]WL[1797.839]
;B[bc]BL[1688.036]
;W[db]WL[1796.639]C[dwbump: GNU is playing at level 12 but it seems awfully fast
]
;B[cg]BL[1675.036]
;W[bg]WL[1792.547]
;B[eb]BL[1663.944]C[ibd [13k?\]: what is special about this match?
]
;W[ec]WL[1787.958]
;B[fb]BL[1652.773]C[dwbump: it's a computer go ladder challenge
]
;W[fc]WL[1781.042]C[ibd [13k?\]: what does this mean?
]
;B[dc]BL[1643.233]C[gunnar [?\]: Level 12 is fast for 9x9 on a modern computer.
]
;W[cb]WL[1776.827]
;B[ad]BL[1634.168]
;W[ch]WL[1775.187]C[dwbump: google computer go ladder
]
;B[dh]BL[1624.513]
;W[dg]WL[1768.333]
;B[eg]BL[1612.671]
;W[df]WL[1764.188]
;B[bh]BL[1601.601]
;W[be]WL[1753.807]
;B[ci]BL[1592.582]C[dwbump: the computer ladder has been around for many years, 
before go servers I think
]
;W[ef]WL[1749.883]
;B[fe]BL[1583.066]
;W[bb]WL[1744.149]
;B[cc]BL[1573.985]
;W[ab]WL[1740.21]
;B[ac]BL[1565.523]
;W[fg]WL[1737.46]
;B[eh]BL[1557.137]
;W[ff]WL[1735.178]
;B[he]BL[1548.532]
;W[fh]WL[1729.6]
;B[hh]BL[1541.175]
;W[ei]WL[1728.477]
;B[gh]BL[1527.77]
;W[fi]WL[1725.606]
;B[ag]BL[1518.417]
;W[ai]WL[1723.722]
;B[gb]BL[1511.348]
;W[hb]WL[1722.7]
;B[da]BL[1504.843]
;W[ga]WL[1721.246]
;B[ha]BL[1497.609]
;W[ia]WL[1719.995]
;B[hc]BL[1491.46]
;W[gd]WL[1719.364]
;B[ge]BL[1484.859]
;W[hd]WL[1718.996]C[gunnar [?\]: Black is also playing rather fast.
]
;B[ah]BL[1476.511]
;W[di]WL[1718.217]
;B[id]BL[1468.831]
;W[gg]WL[1717.843]
;B[hg]BL[1462.37]
;W[cf]WL[1717.608]C[dwbump: what level should I have played at?
]
;B[ea]BL[1455.744]
;W[ca]WL[1717.389]C[dwbump: and what options?
]
;B[ch]BL[1448.524]
;W[ic]WL[1717.199]
;B[af]BL[1439.299]
;W[ae]WL[1717.036]
;B[ig]BL[1431.062]
;W[ie]WL[1716.795]
;B[if]BL[1426.11]
;W[ed]WL[1716.494]
;B[de]BL[1420.066]
;W[bi]WL[1716.244]C[gunnar [?\]: If you have a computer that's not too old I 
think level 15 or 16 should be fine.
]
;B[id]BL[1414.285]
;W[gi]WL[1715.974]
;B[ci]BL[1405.036]
;W[ie]WL[1715.6]C[yoyoma [1d\]: whole board kill
]
;B[bh]BL[1398.113]
;W[ag]WL[1715.302]C[gunnar [?\]: But then there's also the option to turn on 
Monte Carlo.
]
;B[ch]BL[1392.588]
;W[ah]WL[1715.014]
;B[id]BL[1387.34]
;W[hi]WL[1714.735]C[dwbump: what about monte carlo option?
]
;B[aa]BL[1381.395]
;W[fa]WL[1714.473]
;B[]BL[1381.395]
;W[]WL[1714.473]TW[aa][ba][da][ea][ha][eb][fb][gb][ib][ac][bc][cc][dc][hc][ad][cd][dd][fd][id][de][ee][fe][ge][he][ie][af][gf][hf][if][cg][eg][hg][ig][bh][ch][dh][eh][gh][hh][ih][ci][ii]C[gunnar
 [?\]: It can be turned on with --monte-carlo.
ibd [13k?\]: this bot is scary because of how fast it plays :o
gunnar [?\]: Then level 12 for the normal move generation is probably fine.
ibd [13k?\]: see ya
gunnar [?\]: Not sure what --mc-games-per-level should be set to. Default 
should be faster than necessary.
dwbump: next time I will consult you before setting the options
gunnar [?\]: Seems to have worked out fine anyway. :-)
dwbump: I have to go to lunch now
dwbump: thanks Jacqueline
gunnar [?\]: See you.
dwbump: I'll leave deepgnu up if you want to play more games
dwbump: it's configured to play only against jacqueline
dwbump: i will change that after lunch
jacqueline [?\]: Bevore more games, I need to improve
])




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