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Re: Marketing Summary


From: Dennis Leeuw
Subject: Re: Marketing Summary
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:12:29 +0200
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Adam Fedor wrote:

On Sep 29, 2004, at 2:21 AM, Dennis Leeuw wrote:

To make sure all noses are pointing in the same direction, a little summary from the last couple of days:

Everybody that reacted agrees on the fact that GNUstep needs more attention from the "outside world".

Almost every body responded in a fashion that more or less indicated that GNUstep without a real environment (Desktop, Developer or whatever other name) is causing problems for marketing and positioning.
Banlu suggested an DE under the GNU umbrella.
Adam, could you respond to this?
Could you indicate what your point of view is?


Well, sure. I think we're all confused by what GNUstep is. We should try to define it better. I see that there is a developer side and a user side. It would be nice, for instance, to have to sections of the web site, or preferably two web sites that cover each side separately.

On the user side, we need to decide as well, what parts will be handled by GNUstep itself (i.e. owned by the FSF) and what parts will be left up to others in order to define a desired desktop environement (Backbone, etc).

Yep. That is exactly what is needed, but could you and/or any of the other core developers indicate what you feel is part of GNUstep?

To just give an example, that has been confusing me: There are -make, -base, -back and -gui. But also GORM and ProjectCenter. So there are "libs" and apps... which is weird. I mean if you have a development environment with apps you should have the things in place that make the apps work e.g. an integrated window manager and the like.

But I am going too fast again. One of the marketing guys told me the following steps to get to a good positioning for marketing:
1a- Define where the project has it's strong points (compared to the others)
1b- What is part of the project and what isn't

2- Define the target group

3- Make a list of ways to target the target group and always answer the "What is in it for me"-question for the target group.

I think we are currently discussing 1b. If we have defined that well, we can answer 1a.

Ideas, suggestions, comments?

Dennis

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