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Re: Booting a system in a specific language


From: scootergrisen
Subject: Re: Booting a system in a specific language
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:04:39 +0100
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Den 04-02-2017 kl. 18:52 skrev Andrei Borzenkov:
04.02.2017 20:47, scootergrisen пишет:
Den 04-02-2017 kl. 18:26 skrev Andrei Borzenkov:
04.02.2017 20:04, scootergrisen пишет:
I test out different Linux distributions and some distributions offer to
select language during boot and some does not.

It helps when i can select language and keyboard layout etc. during boot
so i dont have to change the language etc. from inside GNOME or what
ever.

But does GRUB have anything to do about booting a system in a specific
language or does each distribution modify GRUB to be able to change
language.

Some distributions seem to be able to change the language of the GRUB
boot menu and some does not.


Internally GRUB supports l10n (reimplementation of gettext). Some
distributions install language catalogs; how they select them is
distribution-dependent. But grub-mkconfig and scripts that are shipped
with GRUB itself do not make use of this and emit strings in fixed
language, as set at the time grub-mkconfig runs so you cannot change
menu language without regenerating it. That would be something to
consider after 2.02 release.

As for keyboard layout, unfortunately only at_keyboard supports run-time
switch and it apparently has problems on real hardware. Default BIOS
input driver has fixed layout. There was proposed patch to implement
layouts on top of extended keyboard BIOS interface.

For example if i try Ubuntu live image.
I'm not sure if it uses GRUB but i think so.
When the image starts and i press a button i can select language.

And i get something that looks a bit like
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=grub2.theme.bennett.png
where you have F2 and F3 at the bottom to select language and keyboard
layout.

If i select my language the menus changes to my language and also the
keyboard layout changes. This i really nice i think but it seems most
distribution dont offer this on boot... so i have to use GRUB in english
and change language when i get into GNOME or what ever.

Where does this "F1 Help F2 Language F3 Keymap..." come from?


Most likely syslinux

It looks like this almost:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Ubuntu_options_boot_screen.png

On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 it says GRUB 2 is default bootloader and under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Themes there is an image with the menu with "F1 Help F2 Language".


In Debian for example i have to manually type what language to start in
and keymap to use and this is not so nice because first i have to
remember what to type (cant use webbrowser to search for it) and
different distributions seems to use different codes and also the menu
during boot is in english and the keyboard layout is incorrect so it
makes it harder to type in the codes like "=" and "_" and "-" because
they are not on the correct places during boot.

Basically i'm trying to help get Linux distributions better in my
langauge so we can have danish translation from the beginning like the
Ubuntu live image i tested.

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