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Re: Around again, and docs lead role
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Re: Around again, and docs lead role |
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Sun, 4 May 2003 21:47:42 +0200 |
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On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 04:21:03PM -0600, Robert Uhl wrote:
> address@hidden writes:
> > I had similar experiences. The existing documentation *is* very good,
> > but i was astonished to find a few undocumented jewels (well, actually
> > pretty neccessary stuff:) in the header files...
>
> Yup--exactly the problem I've had. There are a few things (which I
> cannot recall anymore)
In german we call it "Verdraengung" (repression) :-)
> which have been right royal bears without docs.
> Most of 'em I've solved by digging through headers, figuring them out
> once, and then copy-pasting from then on. Not the most elegant way to
> handle things, for certain:-}
Well, it's a nice way to get comfortable living in the guts of guile,
but scares application programmers who 'just' need guile as an embedded
language.
> > > But other than that it's been decent. Of course, I did have to
> > > learn Scheme from SICP; it'd be nice were there an intro to Scheme
> > > itself somewhere.
> >
> > Hmm, there a a handfull of pretty good Scheme intros available, why
> > bother duplicating these efforts (better: write a Guile-specific
> > addendum for one of these).
>
> Well, most of them seem to either be print books (which cost dough), or
> written specifically for some incompatible dialect.
??? "Teach yourself Scheme in fixnum day" is free and takes greate care
*not* to be dialect specific. SICP is available online as well ...
> The bigger issue is
> that I imagine most of us want Guile to become the extension package of
> choice, even more popular than Perl or Python. To be successful at
> that, it's useful to have a tutorial, particularly when the language is
> as odd as a Lisp dialect can seem as first. Those unfamiliar with
> Scheme who happen upon Guile are likely to skip past, scared away by the
> parentheses and lack of a thorough introduction.
I don't know. Somehow i have the feeling that a Scheme based scripting
language will never be as popular as Perl or Python etc. (and i'm not
even shure i want that). My first encounter with Scheme was ScruptFu
(the Gimp's scripting language). There were a handfull of rather simple
intros and close to no real documentation -- still i somehow managed to
get my filter written (the anoying part where the missing features of
the dialect -- anyone for a Guile/Gimp???).
Ralf Mattes
- Re: Around again, and docs lead role, Robert Uhl, 2003/05/03
- Re: Around again, and docs lead role, rm, 2003/05/03
- Re: Around again, and docs lead role, Robert Uhl, 2003/05/03
- Re: Around again, and docs lead role,
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- Re: Around again, and docs lead role, Robert Uhl, 2003/05/04
- Re: Around again, and docs lead role, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2003/05/04
Re: Around again, and docs lead role, Neil Jerram, 2003/05/08