Re: python on guile

[Jan Wedekind]

Hi,
In the past I have looked at how Python's NumPy and Ruby's NArray are 
implemented. I then implemented Ruby multiarray (one of the HornetsEye 
libraries). The point is that ultimately you want a flexible library for 
umiform arrays with a JIT compiler to match the exressiveness of Guile/Scheme. 
I am working on something like that at the moment [1]. Any comments and 
suggestions are welcome.

Jan

[1] https://github.com/wedesoft/aiscm

On August 13, 2014 6:43:09 AM GMT+01:00, Nala Ginrut <address@hidden> wrote:
>On Sat, 2014-08-09 at 14:58 +0200, Federico Beffa wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 23:33 +0200, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote:
>> >> I would like to hijack the python2/3 community over to guile.
>> 
>> Hi, I'm a user of python which would very much prefer to use Scheme
>:-)
>> 
>> I just wanted to say that the reason for which a lot of
>> engineers/scientists are using python, is because it now provides a
>> pretty large set of scientific/engineering and plotting functions
>with
>> the 3 main libraries numpy, scipy and matplotlib. It would be
>> fantastic if somehow this functionality could be made available in
>> guile :-)
>> 
>
>I agree with you, the popular of Python is largely because of some
>popular libs.
>
>
>I'm one of the guys who is interested in hacking multi-lang front-end
>on
>Guile. And I think there're at least two approaches to cut this Gordian
>Knot.
>
>1. Make great effort to be compatible with the original Python, even
>the
>C interfaces(maybe a wrapper or refactor the C part with Guile CAPIs).
>And recompile the whole numpy/scipy/matplotlib with guile-python. This
>would be the fantastic and idealism way. But challenging.
>One of the reasons is whether our brand new CPS-based backend (in
>master
>branch) is suitable for Python language would be suspended. In
>principle, it's suitable for FP languages especially continuation-based
>one. But it's worth to try anyway.
>The difficulty contains both workload and indeterminacy.
>
>2. Write Guile own libs for the same purpose of numpy/scipy/matplotlib,
>and users may call the related modules from Python code. I have to
>emphasize that any language implemented on Guile could call the modules
>written with other languages, if it's on Guile too.
>This is also challenging. But IMO, the difficulty of this way contains
>workload only.
>
>
>These are my ideas. And I'd like to try the first way because of my
>hacking habit.
>But the most significant thing is to make the latest Guile-2.2(in
>master
>branch) better than before. I'm trying to rewrite guile-lua on
>Guile-2.2, but it's in a slow progress since there're lot of new stuffs
>need to learn.
>
>Any ideas?
> 
>
>Best regards.

-- 
Jan Wedekind
http://www.wedesoft.de/