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Re: Guile Steel: a proposal for a systems lisp


From: Damien Mattei
Subject: Re: Guile Steel: a proposal for a systems lisp
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 16:47:04 +0200

On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 2:44 PM Christine Lemmer-Webber <
cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote:

> Bigloo is cool.  I think it falls under the same category of Chicken,
> which I address towards the end of:
>
>   https://dustycloud.org/blog/guile-steel-smelting-pot/
>
> "Chicken Scheme compiles to C but doesn't strike me as qualifying for
> this post's vague definition because it still has the usual
> memory/dynamic typing overheads of Scheme. But go ahead and read
> literally everything on more-magic.net anyway because that stuff is
> great."
>
> Same feels like it could be said of Bigloo, but if I'm wrong, lmk :)
>

perhaps i'm wrong, but Chicken seems to have strict types as options:
http://wiki.call-cc.org/man/5/Types
about Bigloo the best answer would be to ask to author himself but i used
Bigloo a little to produce JVM class files only, not C obj files , and it
can be declared some statically typed variable i think in both C and Java
targets:
see:
https://www-sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/manual.html#G82
and mostly:
https://www-sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/manual-chapter25.html
Regards,
Damien


>
>
> Damien Mattei <damien.mattei@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > perhaps Bigloo a Scheme that targets C and has many other features can
> help:
> > https://www-sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/
> > Damien
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 5:38 PM Christine Lemmer-Webber <
> cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote:
> >
> >  A little blogpost this morning, not actual software, but software
> >  desiderata:
> >    https://dustycloud.org/blog/guile-steel-proposal/
> >
> >  I'd love to see something like the above happen.  I'd love to help make
> >  it happen.  So this is more of a call to arms than anything else.
> >
> >  Can we have a "systems lisp"?  Can we do better than Rust?  Let's put
> >  some interesting things on that compiler tower of ours!
>
>


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